• leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Trump wasn’t a client, was he? He was a full blown accomplice, judging by the overwhelming amount of times he’s mentioned…

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    Right but those thousands of Trump mentions were Epstein himself saying “why won’t Mr. Trump answer my invitations to the island?” and brainstorming with Elon Musk “how can we get Mr. Trump to come visit the island?” /s

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    Hey Canadians

    You should search for Galen Weston Jr in the files and see if anything comes up.

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    Making this about race, or even age, is how you lose elections.

    It’s all about wealth AKA power. You don’t get to be absurdly wealthy or powerful by being an empathetic person who worries about how your actions impact others. So while not all powerful people are down for an Epstein visit or a Diddy party, they’re almost all down to look the other way.

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      Relying on elections is how you give away all of your political power to the wealthy class. Both parties represent the rich, we need to be organizing grassroots networks that can take political power, not ask for it.

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        Telling people not to vote is how you give away all of your political power to people who vote.

        How’s Trump in office again feeling for you after you convinced enough people to stay home?

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          Where did I tell people not to vote? I’m saying that if voting is the only political action you take, you are declining to have a significant impact on politics. Voting is the least effective political action you can take, but it’s still political action.

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    Bill Gates actually isn’t that rich now, because he gave very generous donations to charities. I still consider him a pretty good guy, but not as bad as Musty Musky. I don’t know everything he’s done, good or bad, but him not keeping his money to himself and using it to make rockets and houses on Mars makes him a better man then most of the people in the 'Files.

    check out this article for more info:

    [https://fundraiserinsight.org/articles/bill-gates-donations.html](link here)

    Also, he supports gay marriage! He donated 500,000$ in support of gay marriage. ( n U n )

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      he gave very generous donations to charities

      I agree with you on that. He did give generously, and that is a good thing

      I still consider him a pretty good guy

      But I don’t think I can agree here. I will reserve full judgement for an investigation, but between the details in the document, and the things Melinda has hinted at, it seems like he did some heinous things

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      Technically, Elon Musk normalized electric cars and charger stations, in a tightly closed industry where gasoline was the only choice. Skylink also provided a lot of internet to many areas where other Internet companies refused to go or invest in.

      Bill Cosby showed America that Black families weren’t any different than everybody else. His contributions to the black community, and his work with youth, made a lot of black people who they are today.

      Adolf Hitler united Germany after the embarrassment of WW1… I’m not going to highlight all the other shit.

      Do you understand what I’m saying here?

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      Donating to charity doesn’t make a good man, in fact I think if they do it to cleanse their conscience, I think it’s morally questionable.

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    That’s not true. Trans people are mentioned. Not by name, but rather how to design perfect sex slaves by transitioning people.

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      Because he’s so insecure he desperately wants to be in the “In” group. And he probably got ghosted because he’s the kind of guy who’d go around bragging how he’s in the Epsteins pedo cabal

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    To be fair Epstein did talk about forcing transition on young boys and raising them as sex slaves. And he was 100% a chaser which came up many times. But trans people were never mentioned as perpetrators of abuse only as victims.

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      Yup, the “democrats are forcibly transitioning your kids” conspiracy theories that conservatives parrot has 100% been coming from the fact that the billionaires wanted to do exactly that. They wanted to forcibly transition children to keep as sex slaves.

      There are multiple documents in the files confirming this… They even go on to justify it by saying that they’d be doing the children a service, because it would allow them to make more money as prostitutes or porn stars after they’re too old for Epstein’s clients.

      There’s a weird branch of conservatism that is really into forced feminization as a kink. That’s why trans women are vilified, but femboys are somehow okay with many conservatives. To the conservatives who are into forced feminization, the femboy is just playing into that kink, and they can tell themselves that it’s forced. They don’t see it as gay, (which would be wrong, as conservatives hate the evil gays), because it’s forcing someone to be feminine instead. But trans women take it too far for those conservatives, because it removes the “I’m forcing them to do this by being more masculine” power dynamic that they enjoy with forced feminization. With trans women, it’s very clearly something that they’re doing to themselves, not something that is being forced upon them.

      But with the billionaires, that latter part isn’t a problem. They literally could force kids to be trans. So it just plays even harder into the forced feminization kink that so many conservatives have… It’s the natural end stage of the kink for them. Trans girls don’t break their illusion of power, because the power is not an illusion when you’re that rich.

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        Holy shit, you put into words what I’ve been feeling but haven’t quite been able to put my finger on, like something hiding in the periphery even if you try to look at it.

        I’m simultaneously relieved to finally have it out in the open, and disgusted to see it written so plainly. All these people should go Mario Kart with Luigi.

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    Eh, actually trans people ARE mentioned but like, in a creepy ass way talking about how to DO things to them. Like. Its disturbing. No trans person is IMPLICATED in the files however.

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      Came here to say this exact thing. Just goes to show it’s always a liiiiittle worse than you’d expect with these files