This could have all been ended when it was discovered Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. He should have been impeached and then imprisoned. The Republican party traded any semblance of law and justice for corrupt party loyalty.
You can’t imprison a celebrity in america. How absurd
Well obviously not a white one.
“Thank you for your attention to this matter!”
Full disclosure, this was a response to a deleted comment lol
Also, does anyone know why Connect for Lemmy is highlighting almost every comment bright purple?
You can go to Settings -> Comment customisation -> Highlight new comments to get rid of the purple backdrop. However, it didn’t do this before with the setting enabled, so it seems like a bug to me…
Good to know, thanks. It’s super obnoxious considering my theme is a dark red! Definitely seems like a bug, I feel like it would follow your “material you” theme more if it wasn’t
This entire political party is fucking insane. It’s telling that this numbnut is spreading the most reasonable message from their camp at the moment. The U.S. is so fucked. And it’s pathetic how most people don’t rebel. Now they say “wait for the next vote”, but there won’t be a proper vote. Your government are a bunch of pedophiles protecting themselves and each other by holding onto their power. Ah, will write nothing more. It’s not doing anything anyway.
Sure. Lets all assume MAGA believed it was a “hoax, or democratic lie” before today. Now that it isnt they need to explain why they still support Trump.
Because that’s how they own the libs.
Because it’s about their side winning. They don’t care about trump exactly, they care about their team.
“Bombshell”
Can she make herself useful instead of this self promoting bullshit? She never read one name off the Epstein files before she left office, as she promised.
MTG helped build this hellscape. She shouldn’t be allowed to out run it either just because she decided to quit as soon as the wind changed directions.
She’s got other heavy baggage for sure. But you can still appreciate her efforts on this front. If she’s willing and able to tear down Trump and all the other pedos on the list, don’t turn down the help. We still need all we can get.
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You’re being needlessly argumentative mate. The previous posted basically said “She’s trash, but she can help tear things down”… You then reply, saying “no”, but also saying “She can be a useful idiot” who can help “try and wreck trump”. SO YOU AGREED AND ADDED NOTHING.
Just upvote the other guy. Yeesh.
You’re right. Did it. Happy? I just get so incensed at these politicians.
No one said she is suddenly pure. Not even her.
You cannot deny this doesnt benefit everyone. You cannot deny you are benefitting from this too.
Dont pretend you’re somehow above this and that having a maga switch sides doesnt help talk down the other MAGA from being so undeniably cruel by throwing a vote to literal satan.
And what do you think should happen with all the MAGA followers after all is said and done and they wake the hell up? Kill the ignored poor and uneducated who voted badly because they are ignored poor and uneducated?
Does that make us all better than hitler or trump?
Even if and when the dems take back the place the previously ignored MAGA followers dont disappear nor does the holes in the democracy that gave way to billionaires helping this rhetoric build up.
So i dont know what you are picturing as the ultimate win here. It is just to win against the maga here? cuz as i see it, there are two very different wars to win: the political house and the toxic maga rhetoric. Allowing billionaires to happen while the larger percentage starves and becomes ignorant to be used.
Cuz that shouldnt have happened at all in a working democracy.
So it is not enough to just win the house here. Major changes need to happen for it to sustain.
When germany swung back from hitler; the converted followers didnt just vanish there. Neither are the people who were once MAGA in america. But the germany as a whole did change what caused that rhetoric to get them to that point.
The poor and uneducated arent going away.
So You’re either going to have to find some peace with this or roll up sleeves and change it.
I’ve had my sleeves rolled up and been working to change it irl since Trump’s first term and again in 2025’s campaign and change of power. So you don’t have to tell me. I also never advocated for killing the poor and uneducated. So I don’t know what you’re on about there with that straw man. Sorry but I’m always going to advocate for accountability and I’m not giving MTG a pass.
Never said you had to. No idea who or what you’re mad at now. That’s not what I said.
I miss the days when MTG stood for Magic the Gathering.
As far as I know, this MTG never sicced the Pinkertons on anyone.
I read this as Parkinson’s at first…
Just ICE implicitly.
Something we ALL ALREADY KNEW and you guys being the only ones pretending otherwise…is not a bombshell.
I’ll never like her.
I will begrudgingly acknowledge that she was likely suckered in the same way so many people were suckered, and is now trying to do the right thing.
I will continue to quietly suspect that she’s probably an accessory to the cover up in some way and is trying to save her own ass.
However, the enemy of my enemy and all…
She’s on a tear because she thought she’d get a top cabinet position, only to discover that Trump along with everyone else in the party thinks she’s a moron.
To be fair, she IS a moron.
To be fair!
She’s not trying to do the right thing. She was perfectly happy being compliant with the current administration as long as her back was scratched. Now that they’ve thrown her under the bus, she wants to piss in as many teacups as possible!
I don’t really think she is trying to do the right thing. She was Trumps biggest ally for YEARS while he did some of the worst things, you could think of and she most likely knew about the Epstein stuff way before this and actively covered it up. She doesn’t believe in anything except her own power.
I think, the reason she is doing this is because she recognized that Trump is a sinking ship and she is trying to take advantage of that for her own gain. Maybey she wants to run for president in the future or at least be the loyal companion of one. If she were to continue defending Trump for everything his admin does, she would sink with him, so she tries to get out.
Sometimes, even basically evil people have a line they won’t cross. Deceiving the public and corrupting the rule of law beyond repair, just to protect a cabal of pedophile rapists, seems to be that line, for an alarmingly small number of republicans. I guess she just didn’t think it would come to that. MTG is probably just your basic greedy racist vindictive kind of evil. I can imagine why the sadistic child raping stuff might be a deal breaker for some people.
I think MTG is loyal to “her people”. She’s fine when “other people” are hurt, but Epstein and his co-conspirators hurt white, Christian, American girls. We’re seeing more and more people breaking off from MAGA based on their personal principles, like the NRA and other 2nd amendment rights group speaking out against the Pretti shooting.
Donald has no principles whatsoever, he just wants to “win” and demands absolute loyalty no matter what. It looks like some of his supporters are starting to see the con job, or maybe they already did, but they’re starting to realize that allying with a man who will betray you as soon as you’re no longer useful is a bad strategy.
“her people” fucks kids. She knew and they were still her people until the charade fell. Then she changed
I’m probably being generous to MTG and giving her the benefit of the doubt in spite of the fact that I’m appalled how “her people” are limited to white, American Christians. But my generous take on it is that she originally didn’t know that the wealthy elites among her people were fucking the children among her people and once she realized that, she rebelled against it.
I’m don’t know her or anyone who knows her so I’m just speculating based on the same information as everyone else, but it explains her behavior pretty well.
Yet unfortunately she did know and the child sex was just a step in her career, she would keep it hidden but was thrown under the bus by her people so she suddenly cares about kid penetration
you misspelled “rape, torture and kill”
No, they also fuck them
The thing is, the line here wasn’t some moral conflict. From what I understand, she’s mad because the republicans wouldn’t back her senate run. All this was ok with her as long as she continued to have a political career.
The enemy of your enemy is just another enemy.
Then where the hell are my friends?
She’s an utterly dispicable woman. That doesn’t mean she’s wrong on this one issue.
It’s completely fine (and reasonable) to say “I hate this person and everything they stand for but on this one issue we’re in complete agreement”.
I mean, everyone already knew this
It’s good for her supporters to hear her say this.
It’d be more useful if her one issue was with Trump calling Georgia (the state she represents) for more votes. Republicans are cool with that because it was their side doing it.
It’s too late, though. She’d dead to hardcore MAGA, no Rumble influencer would dare amplify her, and algorithms would never show this to people more on the fence.
One report I saw says she changed her stance when some of her supporters did. There’s no doubt she brings along a few people and that’s good.
That’s the problem though.
All these increasingly more narrowly-defined subsections of subcultures that people are supposed to add to their list of things to hate or to support based on which part of the imagined binary you think you’re in is, in the end, just how pedovore psychos decided to use media companies to turn the world into a Gordian Knot of strife so they could continue to act with impunity.
It’s well past time to stop just throwing labels at people whether we support them or not.
I’m going to take a controversial stand here: anyone who is actively against billionaires eating cream cheese intestines of babies they just fucked as they try to control the world is on the right side of things.
Does someone hate something you think they should love or love something you think they should hate? Then you should hope they change, or talk to them, or reexamine your own conception of things. Have you been radicalized to some extent by the baby-eating pedo elites? It’s not too late to take stock and reconsider.
How many supporters does she have left? There must have been a big overlap with the MAGA-no-matter-what, and I would assume most were not pro-MTG first, pro-Trump second.
It’s good to see cracks in the MAGA figures ranks, but I doubt she still has as much influence as medias and social networks attention.
She’s been rino’d, they won’t listen
Jebus you and Too Late Bruce below are defeatist. You just decided all was hopeless as if that’s what you wanted. Now get away from me.
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MTG represents the post-Epstein MAGA movement. All the fascist policy, none of the Epstein baggage. She is extremely valuable to the movement pivoting around the pedophilia.
That raises an interesting question: how many MAGA figures are not compromised by the Epstein files? How much support would they have left from oligarchs and foreign MAGA allies?
It seems to me to be a good thing if MAGA is fracturing? I’d be more concerned if they were unified in hiding behind one scapegoat, to avoid repercussions from the Epstein files
Yes, it is a good thing. But the rat won’t drown itself, so it’s looking for any line to safety.
They are winning, these rejections and condemnations of maga defectors all treat them like WW1 countries that unconditionally surrendered, not the victorious party seeking to put a permanent fix in. Rats drown? Hardly. She would’ve been fine if she didn’t speak out. She’s not fine because she did speak out.
And right wing influence operations come onto our communities and trash her, to reject defectors because of lack of purity.
Yeah, she’s pissed because she realized she’s expendable rather than a main character.
Too bad she’s a woman. That won’t respect her enough to follow her. She’s should get her husband to say exactly what she said. Then they’ll listen.
I don’t think that’s a bad thing. The fact is, she is still a smarmy lunatic who supports fascism, even if she dislikes Trump personally. The left elevating her as a “reasonable centrist” gives her power and its power she would giddily abuse if given the opportunity.
My favorite part of MTG turning on her friends is that it is all in response to being told she won’t be endorsed as a Senate candidate by the GOP. If she can’t have her fiefdom then no one can.
That’s the thing about authoritarians: they attract authoritarian followers (thought not exclusively). If the authoritarian at the top fails to recognize those of their followers that have the same traits and give them enough of a “fiefdom” to rule, then they betray. It’s one of the things that makes fully authoritarian rule fragile (most long-term successful dictators ensure they give enough power to the right people under them).
First Rule of Fascism: You can piss off your citizens, you can piss off your staff, but you absolutely cannot piss off your military leaders. They actually hold the power, and would have no problem just shooting you in the face, if the situation was dire enough.
Also, friendly reminder than Stalin died a horrible and painful death because he told his guards to not disturb him, and he lied there in a pool of his own piss until most of the day was gone. Extreme punishments for breaches of protocol come with a cost.
Or have them executed.
Not only her. The infighting became very apparent at some point before the '24 election when it looked like The Don might have to go to prison, or otherwise be unable to run. For a few weeks, they were all at each other’s throats.
And it’s getting hotter under the surface as Trump is getting too frail/senile to govern.
Dropped a bombshell? More like dropped some water in the ocean. This is obvious to anyone not burying their head in the sand.
So freaking tired of these bombshell reports and then once you read it, it’s like no shit. I already knew that.
Not on this side of the great information rift, no. But think of the people imprisoned inside the MAGA echo chamber. For them this may be news, and MJT and Rogan do have the potential to pierce the walls of their “conservative” media rubber rooms just enough for some fresh air to come through.
This is true, but it shouldn’t be :(
They’re on that side because they choose to be there. There could be a cure for cancer on this side and they wouldn’t care.
I’m not defending or glorifying either of them. They’ve done tons of damage to the U.S. by spreading lies and division. What I’m saying is that they might prove useful idiots for a change, fracturing the MAGA cult just enough to allow the less brainwashed to come to their senses.
They absolutely WOULD care. If you cure cancer, you lose all the money being made to treat cancer, and THAT can’t happen.
Look at her, with this “revelation” that literally EVERYONE already knew. For years.
The MAGA fucknuts are too dumb and brainwashed to realize the shit they voted for.
