(Older article, relevant today)

  • Border Patrol agents have intentionally and unnecessarily stepped in front of moving cars to justify using deadly force against vehicle occupants.
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    Each time we see an act of impunity, it only empowers individuals to react as if each encounter is deadly. I’m not trained to handle masked and armed men, screaming, swearing, and storming my vehicle. I only know that my options are to either allow these strange men to kidnap me or get shot. If it’s a death sentence, why leave control to them? Why shouldn’t I buy a firearm and start target practice? These masked men are cowards inside, externalizing their fear onto innocent civilians. It’s bullshit and one day it’ll happen to me or you or someone you know. Anyone of us will be dead and no notion of peace will fix it, while they are free to manipulate your murder into a convenient story that supports the fascist narrative. They are using fascism to enact violence. We’ve voiced our dissent, but it continues to fester and grow. We’ve seen history. We know what works.

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    So the behavior that we are seeing spans political leaders. This shows it was even a problem under Obama and the tactic didn’t change there’s just more raids so we have more problems.

    That could be a justification that Congress could use to stop ice deployments until they are better trained or since money is such a problem disband them.

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    This article is from 2014.

    It’s important, but also vital to provide context, as the headline makes it sound current.

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      Yes, since apparently you can turn to not hit them and still get shot. No win, might as well stack the odds in your favor.

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    The report is especially scathing in its critique of agents who’ve stood in front of moving vehicles, recommending that they “get out of the way…as opposed to intentionally assuming a position in front of such vehicles.” The authors add:

    It should be recognized that a half-ounce (200-grain) bullet is unlikely to stop a 4,000-pound moving vehicle, and if the driver…is disabled by a bullet, the vehicle will become a totally unguided threat… Obviously, shooting at a moving vehicle can pose a risk to bystanders including other agents.

    That’s the extra stupidness of this who “self-defense” claim. Even if the guy was actually in danger, even if it had actually been her intent to mow him down… the response was not defensive in the slightest. The danger was a moving vehicle that might be intended to hit him His response was to ensure that vehicle kept moving, and to now do so completely aimlessly and make it an even bigger threat, while making sure that at minimum one person died in the process. And that’s beside the fact that he voluntarily walked right into the only path her vehicle could have taken before shooting her. What a masterful defensive strategist you are.

    “Well I thought the guy was gonna shoot me with his revolver, so I shot him in the face first, then I took his revolver, gave the cylinder a spin, put the barrel to my temple and pulled the trigger. When that chamber proved to be unloaded, I started flipping the gun wildly and pulling the trigger more in random directions to make sure the rest of the chambers were cleared. Thank god for my quick thinking. Defense.”

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      They don’t want logic. They want a righteous kill.

      I saw someone say the officer’s cell phone video wasn’t released to clear him, it was released so people could see that the women were being contentious and were lesbians, therefore showing maga it was a good kill.

      It’s not about does it make sense. It’s “Were they the enemy?” To maga they were.

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    When I was in the police (uk) we were told, repeatedly and explicitly, don’t ever stand in front of, or at the rear of a suspect vehicle.

    Its common fucking sense.

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    Of course they did. I’m sure others have noticed the trend. Anything for these cosplay LEO shitbags to use their toys.

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      Here’s an unpleasant thought for you to chew on. It becomes increasingly clear that’s exactly what they want. When they get it (not if, because if we don’t oblige them a false flag will be attempted) they will enact martial law. Elections will be suspended and a war of conquest will begin. Likely Greenland. Not many dominoes down the road from world war.

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      I just saw a nextdoor post asking if speed cameras will be modified to kill people since lethal force is justified by lawbreaking. Made me chuckle