Investigators recovered two stolen trailers carrying $1.3 million in data center supplies, including copper wire and infrastructure equipment.
The comment I came in to make sure existed. Thank you for doing the good work.
It’s not stealing, they are just training their copper prediction model
They’re increasing GDP! Raising the price of copper by increasing demand
Congrats you’ve made me laugh during my morning shit. 🥇
I’m happy to contribute!
It’s only theft if someone makes a copy of the copper based on that model.
What “thieves”? No one saw any “thieves”. You can’t prove anything.
I’m pretty sure the copper just did that
Or maybe a goose did it, they do things like that sometimes, just watch an untitled goose game let’s play…
They wouldn’t steal a… oh wait they did.
Turns out some of this is showing up at other datacenters… Now weve already set precedent that stealing intellectual property isnt stealing if its for training models or some such bullshit… Time to find out if we can legalize piracy in the physical sense as long as were ‘using it differently.’
Turns out were just a few small steps away from the east india company era again.
Young entrepreneurs just pulling at those little bootstraps, Regan would be proud of their ambition in advancing their station.
Regan sounds like some sort of sect of veganism. They refrain from consuming animal products unless the animal signed a consent form, which is prolly what’s coming with Neuralink. People can’t handle same sex marriage, so what happens when animals consent? I’m not even a furry, I’m a foot fetishist, but ethical bestiality is coming in the next generation, I would say. And damn is Fox News going to implode!
Regans only eat the recycled waste of vegans.
I would pay seven figures to be the caboose in a human centipede
Lucky, we’re taking pre-orders now! The tech will be ready to go in just two years!!!
It’s two weeks, silly. That’s how you con an entire country. You just keep the people living paycheck to paycheck thinking it’s all going to change if they just work hard enough to push through this next bit. That’s what’s keeping the machine working, where y’all are cogs n gears n shit
Two weeks is trump grift, two YEARS is elon pre order grfit - get it right or pay the price…
It’s the same con game
uplifting news
This is very unfortunate. There is a tremendous amount of copper in these data centers, thieves would be able to steal so much copper from data center job sites. It’s frightening to think about it
Not just copper. These server racks are so unfortunately loaded up with parts and components worth a lot of money on the open market. Very unfortunately they have enterprise grade SSDs worth thousands and AI accellerater cards worth 10s of thousands.
And these poor starving companies very unfortunately don’t have the funds to hire a lot of security staff. It’s sadly usually just one guy.
They replaced the security guards with
the smell of their own fartsAI.
Honestly, logistical problems with the weight are gonna be one of the first hurdles. It’s way more than you would even think.
Some say that even if every meth head in the city showed up there would be copper left over.
You wouldnt steal a data center
Why there’s so much copper they can make 1.3 million dollars from it and then go to a country that won’t excommunicate them.
I think the word you were looking for is extradite, which is sending someone home/to the country where crime was committed, to face their justice system.
Excommunication is kicking someone out of a religion/the church, specifically christian afaik, though not all use that word :)
You’re right! Thank you friend!
capitalism seems more like a cult all the time now that you mention it.
Stealing from evil corporations is definitely some people’s religion.
Nature is healing
Don’t tell them there’s copper and other precious metals they can steal in AI datacenters. Also, most definitely DO NOT tell them most AI datacenters are completely unstaffed and easily accessible.
Copper by weight is cheap as hell. RAM & NVME drives are a WAY better ROI. It wouldn’t even be worth carrying the whole server.
Copper is way easier to fence and way easier to steal. The RAM and NVME aren’t getting installed until the building has functional security. The mile of copper wire to run power is locked in a trailer and might not even have a permanent fence around it yet.
How many times do we have to explain that datacenters don’t run on hardware that is compatible with consumer shit?
AI startups are all so desperate for memory and GPUs that I wouldn’t be surprised if a few of them were willing to buy shit that, uh, fell off the back of a truck.
I’ll take all your spare 256 or 512 gig ECC sticks. Heck. I’ll even pay for shipping.
From what I’ve read, even the RAM for AI datacenters is not compatible like this, not even for server stuff.
Bro, watch/read Catch Me if You Can. Frank Abagnale is one of my heroes, like Joseph Smith is, and for the sane reason Christ is our lord. The audacity of a man in reflective vest, hardhat, with ladder and/or clipboard to walk confidently into a building to waltz up to the seventeenth floor to steal state secrets? Well, I’ve only done that four times, so it’s not like I’m an expert or anything.
My dad tells a story about an indicent in the 1980’s, I think, where a couple of gentlemen went to Governer’s Island and stole an 8ft diameter bronze screw. (Ship propeller)
I don’t think they had vests, but they most likely just drove up with a flatbed like they had every right to be there. Probably even asked for help loading it.
Yea, it’s the confidence that those gentlemen were artists at.
Confidence arts
Con arts
That’s why it’s called that
You know that all those Frank Abagnale stories came from Frank Abagnale and we’re all bullshit, right?
They’re all proven liars?
They sure the LLM didn’t just mis-count the inventory?
There are three As in “Strawberry”. Let’s count.
StRawberry
StrAwberry
and there you have it.St. Rawberry
Oh no, the corporations which stole immeasurable quantities of our data to train their for-profit AI models are having their building materials stolen. My heart bleeds.
I’ve read science fiction books in which humans scavenged the machines’ supplies like rodents scavenging from a kitchen, and now it’s reality.
Aren’t these data centers built on our land, right next to our homes, using our water and electricity, funded by selling our data (that we didn’t consent to), and the profits all go to giant corporations, not us? Fuck 'em. I hope they all get raided and stripped bare…
And if you plant some bamboo on the property, it REALLY becomes a problem for the data centers.
Nah, plant a protected species.
Around here people use bats. Like the ones with wings. Once they’ve made a roost it’s illegal to bother them
Bats with wings?
i’m not de-winging a bat. it’s wrong.
Is that a thing?
Kudzu friends, nothing can stop that in time
Again, not a protected species, also, don’t fucking plant kudzu.
Plant a state and federally environmentally protected species, native to the area. Plant a bunch of them and then report the plants to local protective agencies and environmentalist groups. Do your best to hide the fact that these are transplanted plants.
Plant kudzu and all you’re doing is annoying the construction company, forcing them to pave over everything.
Wait fr, data centers are the biggest scam to date. They’re using profits from people’s data (that they didn’t consent to give) to build ai models (that use stolen data) that act as chat bots, ai bots, and general slop generators (tainting the data they’re using to keep training the models), as well as killing the planet for little gains (there won’t be a population to survey if we run out resources to survey that population, aka water and electricity. Not entirely sure about the electricity part, but we’re certainly running out of freshwater globally)
From the bottom to the top, it seems more like a sunk cost fallacy than an actual investment towards a profitable invention. How short sighted are those in power that they don’t realize 100$ now means 0$ later since we’ve killed all plant life from global warming, and we can’t make cash because we can’t make paper. Hell, we might be using water bottles as currency before 2050, if that even scares anyone
Do you believe we should be allowed to run open source / weight LLMs like deepseek locally, for our own gain, even though they too have been indirectly trained on our comments / articles / copyrighted books?
Is that a genuine question that you want to know the answer for, or is it a setup for calling the person you replied to a hypocrit when they say “yes”?
I’m honestly curious. I generally agree with everything you said except the IP argument.
spoiler
I see a conflict between the argument that training LLMs on publicly visible comments (or books or articles) is stealing, and open weight LLM models. If intellectual property is interpreted like that, it will make free LLMs illegal to use, since the original creators of the training data have not licensed this use (even though this data is publicly readable on websites).
I would consider it the worst possible outcome if only the AI corporations would be able to profit from the global treasure of our accumulated knowledge. And I suspect that is what is going to happen because they can lobby for some kind of broad licensing deal and pay them off, but for open source it will not work. I believe that is how they will monopolize AI. Then they will truly have stolen it, because they have taken it away from everybody else.
Courts have unfortunately already decided it’s all legal, so it’s more of a personal ethical issue now.
I’m sure everyone will have varying opinions on it, but if these models were fully open-sourced I’d have less of an issue. What does it for me is that these companies were unwilling to pay creators to use their work in the training data, instead choosing to pirate it to create expensive and locked down AI products which they expect us to pay for.
What does it for me is that these companies were unwilling to pay creators to use their work in the training data
I believe it was logistical impossible. Many books used will probably be scanned and not even be available as ebook or drm protected or out of print. And e.g. Anna’s archive has 64,416,225 books and 95,689,473 papers. Too large to even say what is pirated or nor, or buy every book in a lifetime. And if every book costs you ~$10 that’s close to a billion dollars upfront. Basically creating LLMs wouldn’t have been possible without piracy (or maybe the datasets aren’t actually that extensive).
It’s hypocritical, but ultimately the same argument for piracy that individuals use: IP laws creates unreasonable restrictions that prevent people from learning (or enjoy culture at a sensible price).
(I assume you’re not saying you would need a negotiate a specific license to use a book or a public comment or article for machine learning).
Kinda reminds me of Year Zero by Robert Reid. The whole galaxy full of aliens loves Earth Music but only recently figure the concept of copyright. And how much quintillion moneys they now owe Earth lol.
Of course. The cat’s already out of the bag on that one. That data belongs to the public, not a handful of companies.
If you see someone stealing RAM, no you didn’t
Snitches get switches?
only Cisco switches.
As long as they share
