“Because of tariffs, we are taking in hundreds of billions of dollars of profits,” he said. “It’s one of the reasons I can offer, if Republicans win the House and the Senate, $5,000 to every adult. And we can do it and the Democrats can’t, because the Democrats don’t have any income, and they’re gonna drive us in[to] a depression. They won’t have any money.”

Bitch you already promised us a tariff refund check.

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    Bro, tariffs are paid by us.

    You’re promising to give us our money back? Like you can do that? Maybe just fucking do it right now?

    Nobody should vote for republicans this guy screws everyone over all the time. If republicans win they will tariff harder and take even more away because their policy approach is fuck you that’s why.

    But hey maybe we’ll get some more asshole racist ai video entertainment or whatever.

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      Yes, tariffs are paid by you, but do you believe that someone stupid enough to vote for the orange-haired monkey would understands this? For them, the farm shop or Walmart just raised prices because things got more expensive.

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      Don’t forget the massive chunk he added to the national debt. He stole America’s wallet, ran up the credit card, and now expects forgive and forget because he handed back $5.

      And the sad thing is, it’ll work on a sizable chunk of the US electorate.

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      Except those tariff refunds go back to the companies (even though taxpayers pay), like Nintendo for example, and then they can decide whether or not to refund. Most won’t.

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    It’s a rambling of a senile old man, why the media is reporting that instead of ignoring it.

    You say “yes yes”, nod and put away the cameras…

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    “Because of tariffs taxes, I think I can bribe the stupider among you with your own fucking money.”

    –donnie dumb dumb

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    This statement is literally unconstitutional. Plainly, unambiguously, no mask, no nuance, just unconstitutional.

    The Treasury handles all of this accounting and congress directs spending. The Executive does not just get to use revenue received from its activities as a slush fund. Basically all of the US Government’s revenue is collected by agencies under the Executive. Claiming that they can simply take tariff revenue and turn it into dividend checks is the exact same constitutional argument that he could take IRS revenue and turn it into Bitcoin.

    It’s so plainly illegal, and it demonstrates exactly why the current SCOTUS obsession with extremely strict standing requirements is a flawed concept.

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      It’s so plainly illegal, and it demonstrates exactly why the current SCOTUS obsession with extremely strict standing requirements is a flawed concept blatantly shameless, corrupt, depraved, and traitorous support for dictatorship.

      FTFY.

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    I know that this is all Trump’s blowhard bullshit, but the logic (and we know there isn’t any) could easily be: If we have the money, and it’s not his money, but money made from tariffs, then there’s nothing to stop the Democrats from also giving everyone a $5000 check…

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    Ignoring everything else wrong with this, it’s government money. If it actually existed it wouldn’t just vanish when a democrat gets elected.

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      I mean, if it were from tariffs it just might because Democrats would actually follow the law and stop the tariffs and refund the illegally collected money. Unfortunately that would go back to businesses not individuals.

      Although Trump was already ordered to pay back the money so either he ignored the courts or the money already doesn’t exist.

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    Maybe I’m misremembering but I could have sworn it was against the law to pay for votes.

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      Don’t shoot the messenger. Just paraphrasing the analysis done by Legal Eagle.

      So, technically speaking, this isnt actually illegal. It is illegal to pay someone in exchange for voting a specific way. As in, if you vote for X, I’ll pay you money. But it is not illegal to suggest you will implement a policy, including rewarding cash/a cash value item to everyone, in exchange for an outcome. If he offered only to pay republican voters, he would be buying votes. But since he is offering to pay everyone, regardless of how they voted, for the election outcome he wants, that is not actually illegal. In fact it has been litigated and protected by the SCOTUS before. It is not dissimilar in legal terms from campaign promises like “if I win, I’ll cut your taxes by X%.” Or “Vote for me if you want a Universal Basic Income.” That too is a promise of monetary reward, independent of your vote, in exchange for an election outcome. And you hear stuff like that all the time.

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        So a reporter just needs to ask him if Democrat voters will get it too? Because I bet he’d go off on one about them not deserving it.

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          He has said repeatedly that every citizen would get it. He’s a lying asshole, obviously, but until he starts saying otherwise, technically legal.

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        Interesting. Grey area for sure. Doesn’t make it better of course but explains how they are getting away with it. Thanks.

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      Oh it’s specifically against the law, but that apparently doesn’t matter when the party in charge has no fucking morals

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      I’ve noticed that people keep using that reasoning. It doesn’t mean anything anymore. Is only illegal if you doing get away with it.

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    “Because of tariffs, we are taking in hundreds of billions of dollars of profits,” he said. “It’s one of the reasons I can offer, if Republicans win the House and the Senate, $5,000 to every adult. And we can do it and the Democrats can’t, because the Democrats don’t have any income, and they’re gonna drive us in[to] a depression. They won’t have any money.”

    His so-called logic is so bad it makes my head hurt.

    1. You already control both chambers. You could pass it now if it wasn’t an obvious bribe to get people to vote for your party.
    2. Nothing about the Dems winning midterms stops the tariffs being in place. Literally your entire legal argument is that you don’t need Congress to approve them, so logically the Dems controlling Congress wouldn’t stop them if that was true. So they’d still have the money.

    How do people actually fall for this shit? How?!

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    “They’re going to drive us into a depression”

    …Unlike the depression that’s already forming because of his fucking stupid and disastrous economic policies?

    Yeah, I’ll take my chances with the party that has consistently brought economic stability, rather than the party that is ruining the economy (again) and flagrantly trying to buy votes (after they’ve already made similar promises and failed to deliver).

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      The only party that actually reduces or has ever done away with deficits to the point of surplus, and the only party that has done so nearly every time elected, with the exception of those inheriting a pandemic and a nation with an economy crashing thanks to it.

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    “Because of tariffs, we are taking in hundreds of billions of dollars of profits,” he said. “It’s one of the reasons I can offer, if Republicans win the House and the Senate, $5,000 to every adult. And we can do it and the Democrats can’t, because the Democrats don’t have any income, and they’re gonna drive us in[to] a depression. They won’t have any money.”

    He’s flat out saying he considers the tarrif money “his” if a Republican government has access to it but a democratic government wouldn’t…

    And obviously ignoring that the “profits” are from a tax on Americans buying shit

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      And obviously ignoring that the “profits” are from a tax on Americans buying shit

      Gotta remember who he’s trying to bamboozle… Not the bright lights, the dim ones

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    Ah yes tariffs, the Republicans personal revenue stream cumulating in a very accessible slush fund to burn whatever way that specific party wishes, up to and including bribing voters.

    Makes me wonder why no one else has ever thought of this? Oh, because it’s not a political loophole, just blatantly fucking illegal.