• luciferofastora@feddit.org
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    “Loving” as in “if you so much as think about self-determination, you’ll get guilt-tripped, emotionally manipulated and berated for defying God’s plan”? Because those conditions tend to produce the type of person that doesn’t act up as a teen, but once they reach adulthood and taste freedom, they go all out, with mixed results. Tats and piercings certainly aren’t the worst outcome.

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    It’s a very effective strategy, because speaking as a queer woman, I would see the person on the right and think “personal experience tells me this person might belong to the alphabet mafia, so perhaps I could buy her a drink”

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      MAGA men and women are unattractive whatever their looks.

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      The girl in the OP post arguably overdid things a little, but it’s her body, her choice

      This right wing one just fell of a cliff straight into the abyss of uncanny valley nightmares. What the fuck is that even, it’s not human

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        the appeal she lost was that the tats and piercings make it abundantly clear she’s over 18, and college attendance shows she’s not going to be easy to manipulate and take advantage of. you know. because she’s an educated adult. that’s the big turn off. trust me. that’s ALWAYS the turn off. this guy would say all sorts of nasty stuff about her body if the average 14 year old had tats and piecings.

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      I call it “going under the saw” instead of “going under the knife” because they look like Jigsaw.

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    I hate this so much. This is objectification dialed up to 11. This young woman has value, but only her appearance and only if she dresses and acts how most conservatives want. 🤮 And they all get a say in how she presents herself!

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    ITT: People missing the point and evaluating the relative attractiveness of the two images versus acknowledging the objectification and subjugation of women as a problem.

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      Oh come on, be honest.

      We all objectify all day and as long as you do it in your head and know how to act and react normal, it’s fine. Whatever anyone does in their head is fine as long as it stays there.

      Anytime I hear someone say that they would never objectify anyone I feel this huge “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” kind of thing. We’ve all looked at someone else and thought "habbah habbah.

      Just, again, keep it to yourself.

      Some people like the girl without the tattoos on the left, others like the girl with the tattoos in the right. So? Just let her decide for herself and find someone else if you don’t like it

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        ITT: People not keeping it to themselves.

        Agreed, thinking is not a crime. Replying to a mysogenist’s rant with, “Well he’s not wrong” is objectively mysogeny. Which is also not a crime, but we can do better.

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          Not really. Sexual attraction is merely something you feel. Objectification is when you let that dominate your view of someone. When you reduce them to nothing but a sexual object. You can feel sexual attraction without it being primary factor in how you see someone.

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          when your whole public assessment of others is explaining your ability to be sexually attracted to them, then yes. really gotta notice your publicly talking about someone for a lot of them to happen.

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    Yeah, not everything is meant to be evaluated through personal attraction. People grow for themselves, not an audience.

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      BELL. Kirsten Bell. After a moment of confusion (“I could have sworn the comment said Dunst…”), I was so happy it was Bell. I don’t know how I never saw this a decade and a half ago, but GOD that was funny. Low key one of my favorite actors in Hollywood.

      Recently did a Good Place re-watch, I think I’ll be happy to re-watch that show every couple years for the rest of my life. Perfect cast, well thought out from the onset with no “warmup” period like some TV comedies struggling to get their footing. Hysterical, heartfelt, and somehow also a tear jerker at times.

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        Omg. Ofcourse! Total brainfart from me. Thanks for the heads up.

        I also enjoy her acting, and her humor. Her Halloween picture a few years back dressed as Elsa (by her daughter) was gold.

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    She’s gorgeous.

    Is that many tattoos to my taste? Not totally. But its not her job to be to my taste, or his taste, or anyone’s taste. That doesn’t make her not gorgeous.

    I hate conservative men. Like WTF.

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      Women or any other person. I don’t need to hear that you think she’s gorgeous, it’s missing all of the point.

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        Is it though? It seems to me that at least part of the point is that the conservative appears to take it as read that everyone would find the image on the right less appealing when that’s not at all true. The fact that this is wrong is part of the stupidity on display, and bears pointing out.

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          Pointing out to who? For what purpose? Why do they unanimously prefer the picture on the left to begin with? Do you think the person on the right needs to be told they’re sexually desirable? Where do you think this picture came from originally? Can we talk about the larger themes without talking about personal preferences? Because they’re telling on themselves and it’s going over your head.

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            *Pointing out to the members of this internet forum.
            *For the purpose of laughing at the conservative and their strange values.
            *They prefer the picture on the left because it’s more traditional, and they are afraid of the one on the right.
            *No, and I’m assuming they are not present in this thread so telling them they’re desirable was obviously never the point.
            *I think the picture came from social media.
            *Yes we can talk about larger themes, but we needn’t limit ourselves to that.
            *No they aren’t, and no it isn’t. It’s you that’s missing the point.

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        Thats right no one is allowed to see a woman and decide if they are pleasing to the eye. That is savage and extremely off putting to be allowed to have that choice. /s

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          Zzzz there’s a difference in expressing how beautiful someone is and how fly they be

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          It certainly is when the discussion should be about the fucking pedos leading these shit stains. Context m8.

          They like little innocent malleable girls, so when you see the juxtaposition and decide to offer your dicks 2 cents, yeah it’s a gross red flag that no one needs to hear. Don’t understand why you’d feel the need to mention it in the first place? If you work it out let me know.

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        Normalise not shaming and demonizing male sexuality.

        It’s super off-putting

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          That isn’t male sexuality, it’s a telling lack of critical thinking skills that’s disappointing to see on Lemmy.