• AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space
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    15 days ago

    You know how they have fish spas where you can dip your feet and have fish nibble the dead skin off them? Well, hear me out…

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      Yeah jokes aside, these “spas” are horribly torturing these fishes for things to work.

      They don’t eat dead skin, so the only way for it to work is to starve them horribly until they become so desperate that they’ll eat anything, and that’s when they start eating dead skin.

      And that’s not even starting on their living environment and conditions other than that, the lack of space, the stress, etc.

      As a general rule, when you see a fish in captivity, they are having a horrible life, because no one gives a shit about fishes.

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        15 days ago

        Is this actually true? I’ve had fish do this to me in the wild. Maybe they were starving too but I feel like fish are usually pretty hungry.

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          It’s possible that some would try a nibble, but not really to the extent of exfoliating.

          You can look at wikipedia’s page, that references Peta’s website (footnote 16), which mentions starvation as well as other bad points such as horrible transportation conditions and unhygienic results.

          And I mean, all of that just to remove some dead skin? I don’t really see the point.

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            Yeah I don’t see the point either but I’m just saying fish will eat weird shit sometimes I don’t think that proves they were starving. When it happened to me they were going at it pretty hard it wasn’t just one or two nibbles. That said, I doubt it was the same species so it could be true for that one. But your link seems to be an unsourced statement by PETA which doesn’t seem too credible.

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              Yeah the problem with animal abuse is that no one cares as long as it’s not scientifically proven, and no one proves it scientifically as long as no one cares. That’s why insects have been considered for ages to not feel pain, even though no studies were done, and now studies say the opposite.

              You might not find sources that prove that it’s abuse, but even websites that talk about taking care of them as domestic fishes mention that spas starve them.

              And considering that the starvation would only be one of the abuses, I think it is reasonable to assume that starvation isn’t a crazy assumption to make.

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                Fair points but without real evidence one way or the other I can’t just choose to believe something. At best we can say it may be true.

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          Exactly I’ve had small trout nibble at my toes in the river yesterday, no coercion needed.

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        I’ve seen some very healthy fish in captivity, but I’d agree if you suggested that one kinda needs to be a pro to even come close to an environment that is not toxic to a fish.

        In rare, very rare cases, captive breeding has stabilized a fish species that was previously at dire risk of extinction from over-fishing. It’s rare, and your general rule still stands, but it’s good to leave a little space for the very occasional good news about that.

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          Yeah, I know there are exceptions, and the fact that we know fishes can be abused mean we know what they need. But since the overwhelming majority of people don’t give a shit about fishes, the majority of captive fishes will be abused.

          It’s a bit like hamsters: sure, some people give them the huge cages that they need, proper burrowing places, food, etc. But most people buy them from shitty pet stores for cheap to give to their kids as a disposable pet, put in a horrifyingly tiny plastic cage with nothing to do, often with other hamsters that will attack each other.

          So yeah, it’s good to also encourage good news about fishes being treated well, but I feel like the bigger priority is reducing abuse, so that’s why that’s what I’m focusing on.

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      15 days ago

      Urogenital myiasis is a rare condition where fly larvae (maggots) infest the urinary tract or genital organs. DO NOT google the images.

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      So if flies don’t think my junk is rotting I should be fine. I think I can handle this

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    Bats are cool and all, but I don’t think I need to cultivate a bat colony to target Naughty Bits Parasites that I’ve NEVER heard of. I believe the concern for this issue is overstated.