Yes, non-tankies famously defeated fascism over and over again, like
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For reference: I’m a Spaniard, and the Soviet Union was the only country in the world that stepped up to arm the antifascists during our civil war with rifles, tanks and planes. The vast majority of weapons used by the CNT-FAI were of Soviet manufacture. I can only wish that the Soviets had liberated my country from fascism after WW2, unfortunately the USA prevented that and we were left with 30 extra years of fascism
Also, the meme can be rewritten as “how I stopped caring about actual fascism because the western-manufactured atrocity propaganda made me focus on the ones who actually defeated Nazism and Japanese Imperialism”
i’m starting to think tankies are a liberal ploy to keep liberals away from communism
they pretty much never complain about the right, it’s all about the “shitlibs”
I’m not saying you’re right or wrong but it is certainly interesting that the most prominent tankie specimens on the fediverse average 20+ essay-length comments per day while I get fed jacketed if I spend more than 2 paragraphs refuting their bullshit.
Strange that these self described proles have enough free time between their subsistence wage earning and real life praxis to write a small novel per week…
they just use chatgpt
Fed jacketed? What’s that?
I can’t tell if this is like the federal government coming for you or some fediverse thing.
Fed jacketed? What’s that?
Accused of being a fed. “X”-jacketed is calling someone something without reasonable cause.
it’s a variant of badjacketing
Didn’t know what bad jacketing was, so looked it up (didn’t expect to find anything for fedjacketing, hence why I just asked). Its interesting that Fedjacketing shows up as a form of badjacketing on the wiki page.
To cite the Wikipedia page:
Bad-jacketing is a term for planting doubt on the authenticity of an individual’s bona fides or identity. An example would be creating suspicion through spreading false rumors, manufacturing evidence, etc., that falsely portray someone in a community organization as an informant, or member of law enforcement, or guilty of malfeasance such as skimming organization funds.
21·2 days agoSince you say “self described” do you not consider them to be proles? And why did you specify “subsistence wage?”
It is the exact opposite. Thinking that you can be “progressive” or “left” while writing off everything that is anti-US/anti-west as tankie allows the liberals to feel good while supporting the right and fascism.
Thinking that you can be “progressive” or “left” while writing off everything that is anti-US/anti-west as tankie
what a crazy straw man… no, that’s not why we call people tankies
“The meaning of a word isn’t a stated definition, but how the word is actually used” - Wittgenstein, pretty much
Tbf, the right aren’t here, and “shitlibs” are. Why make more circle jerk “don’t we all hate the right” posts here? There’s already plenty, and if they want to actually confront the right they’d have to go to where the right is, which is decidedly not here.
That said, even though I understand why they’d preach here to those who are here instead of those who aren’t or preaching to the choir, fuck tankies, they’re all pieces of shit, and fuck a vanguard party.
that’s not fair, tbf.
if they were sincere, constantly attacking people and accusing literally everyone who disagrees with them of being a shitlib is very very counter to the cause of legitimate communists.
Communism is of course a collective movement… it requires unity, and out of the majority political groups: liberals are the closest to communists.
In fact, i would argue that in their hearts, most people who identify as a liberal are not aligned with actual liberalism….
they have been going out of their way to make any leftist space toxic to liberals… to make any communist space toxic to communists.
when hxbr was on reddit, they brigaded and harassed leftists only…
and they definitely use a lot of sock puppets and run campaigns to manipulate and fuck up forums like this.
many people are stupid enough to be tankies, but i think the vast majority are completely fake.
they’re extremely hostile towards people who genuinely are interested in communism and come there to learn and engage… extremely extremely hostile.
they are not looking for community, they are seeking to destroy communities and make communism look as bad as possible.
in short: tankies are fake as fuck and a psyopI mean sure, but they’re tankies, they’re fucking stupid.
I just mean you can’t yell at conservatives on a site where there are no conservatives, which is pretty damn straightforward.
But also no tankies aren’t just conservatives in masks, they aren’t all paid propagandists (though I’d be surprised if none were), they’re just fucking morons. Stupid isn’t only “when trump,” there’s stupid people everywhere on every side.
no tankies aren’t just conservatives in masks, they aren’t all paid propagandists
i’m saying they are literally liberals, not conservatives.
Stupid is when “my camp good therefore everyone else bad”, yeah.
It’s only a ploy if you don’t realize there is no communism and never was any anywhere in the world. China, Russia or NK are and never were anywhere near it, so it’s not like you support communism if you voice support for one of those imho. It’s like claiming you love and support brown color just because you love sticking your nose into shit.
that’s exactly why i think they’re play acting.
as a group they’re a lot of things but not actually stupid… yet they profess this deep admiration and respect for authoritarian dictatorships… exactly what liberals use as examples of “why communism doesn’t work”.but like you say, they weren’t communist countries. and these imposters insist over and over and over again that china, russia, and the dprk are the pinnacles of communism.
they derail every online community earnestly talking about communist ideas, and drown out legitimate talk with bullshit about how stalin was great and it’s all propaganda that he killed more people than hitler… never ending purity tests and just being as mean as possible to anyone curious about it.
i don’t think conservatives are as afraid of communism as the liberal establishment is, because actual democrat voters are much closer to communists than they realize.
Rule #1 of humanity: “Nobody is that stupid” is always an incorrect statement.
that’s not how i’ve drawn this conclusion
truly, the biggest take away from this entire post; the american government has vindicated tankies so many times and in writing, but here we see people still cling on to their ignorance with a such zeal that it rival’s red-maga willful ignorance.
I gotta be honest I’m kinda distracted by the active fascist takeover in my country right now. Tankies are annoying and potentially a threat in the future but they’re fighting against that right now. So while I am not in support of left unity in a strategic sense, there can certainly be a form of tactical unity.
The Kangaroo Chronicles if anyone else wanted a marsupial centered critique of capitalism
It’s the WW2 situation. Death to Stalinists, but death to Nazis and other brown fash comes first.
They’re not our friends, but if they’re actually willing to cooperate on the single issue of “Let’s ACTUALLY prevent further genocide” or like thwarting of fascist goals, sometimes you do have to eat the shit sandwich so it doesn’t end up a shit banquet.
You can’t pile rocks with people you disagree with about the floor plan. But you can certainly throw some alongside them.
Just watch for the knife in the back right after the first victory. They’re kinda predictable with it.
Remember to vote Hindenburg and Von Papen to own the Tankies! We in the Zentrum Partei cant let the KPD have the last laugh!
