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      You can support hamas at the level of their resistance to colonialism. Just like you can support Maduro at the level of the resistance to imperialist aggressions.

      Support doesnt need to be absolute. But just supporting the palestinians without support for their flawed means of resistance is pointless, demobilising, weakening…

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        Exactly that yes, and another point is that the IOF are objectively the terorrists in every single comparison matrics and every accusation and war crime claim against Hamas.
        And last point you can’t for example say I’m against aparthied, slavery, genocide and occuption, but then condemn the occupied right to resist.

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        I rember the mangled raped bodies from ravers paraded through cities by Hamas. No, I can’t and will not support this kind of resistance.

        As for Maduro, I do not know enough. i thought he was a dictator oppressing his people, but I realize that it might have been propaganda. Either way, I do not support his kidnapping by a rogue state.

        The enemy of my enemy can still be a fucking horrible enemy and chosing between 2 evils, you still end up with evil. The questions is: which innocent people you’d rather have killed?

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          That would mean that you would have been against indiginous resistance as a whole since their resistance was not always completely clean, same with Nat Turner, same with Mandela and his anc party , same with some jewish resistances group against Hitler since some tried to poison water suply .

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              I do not condone the persecution and execution of innocents but I do not reject Palestinians or any other population right to resistance despite war crimes. Once occupation end I support persecuting war criminals from both side . Your bullshit make it looks like palestians should drop all kind of valid armed resistance because of war crimes so israel continue exterminating them slowly

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                It worked so well for the Taliban. Now it’s all rosy and dainty under their regime, especially for women. I bet Hamas would be different.

                Hamas is not Palestine.

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              Hamas’ actions aim to stop exactly that… an ongoing genocide to be more precise. Acting cleanly, morally, requires a strength that they dont have. This is what they can afford to do. Should they just die silently instead? while the world watches almost immobile?

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          raped

          Wow be sure to send that video you watched to the IDF because nobody has been able to find any evidence of rape happening by Hamas. They will be very happy with your contribution.

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    The title doesn’t convey what the tweet is saying.

    Also, Hamas is dead weight for the Palestinian cause.

    And also no Hamas is not based.

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        No. The occupation will end when the apartheid regime is defeated.

        When I say they’re dead weight, I mean at this point they are more useful to the apartheid regime as a stick with which to hit the Palestine liberation movement, than they are useful to the Palestine liberation movement.

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          When I say they’re dead weight, I mean at this point they are more useful to the apartheid regime as a stick with which to hit the Palestine liberation movement, than they are useful to the Palestine liberation movement.

          That is why Bibi helped fund them.

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          Which is the real liberation movement? The real dead weight are those major countries that continue to have a normal relation with the colonial power despite 57 goddamn year of occupation

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          And they was right about Oslo. Israel continue to build settlements, continud to arm settler terrorists, let them attack westbankers than protect them while the PA is acting like another protection for Israel

          Edit : Do you realize that other resistance groups also did war crimes and without those resistance groups there would be not liberation?

          And if we apply that universaly you would never support your country army or the allies during world war 2

          Israel and it’s backer stands for eternal war, oppression of Palestinians, and religious fanaticism

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    Really happy to see the white “progressives” finally come around on this.

    Hamas has my support as the only armed resistance against Israel, sorry they’re not very nice about getting genocided and it hurts your feelings lmao

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    I support hamas when they attack military targets and don’t support the killing of civilians

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    Hamas committed genocide on October 7, 2023. If you support Hamas, you support genocide.

    Anyone with half a brain can see the genocidal actions of Hamas does not benefit the Palestinian people. They only get Palestinian people killed and produce propaganda for their own profit. If you support Hamas, you want more Palestinians to die.

    A non-violent resistance movement is the only feasible path to Palestinian statehood. The existence of Hamas means it can’t be a non-violent resistance. If you support Hamas, you’re against Palestinian statehood.

    Support of Hamas means you’re someone in denial that Hamas lost, you’re in denial that Hamas has been objectively bad for the Palestinian people. Your hatred doesn’t make you stronger, it only makes you stupid. Hamas and others dominated by hate will continue to lose endlessly because they’re too stupid to accomplish anything other than destruction. You feel like hatred will make you strong enough to destroy your enemies. Look at Tel Aviv. Look at Gaza. What has the hatred of Hamas really destroyed?

    The Nazis were hateful people that lost a war and were objectively bad for the German people. Today only losers identify as Nazis. Supporting Hamas at this point is no different. Hamas is objectively bad for the Palestinian people, and they are losers. Modern day Nazis will say it’s about pride or whatever, but we all know they’re losers that only have hatred and nothing else. Same goes for Hamas. It’s identifying losers that didn’t accomplish anything other than the destruction of their own city and the deaths of their own people.

    If you support Hamas you’re a stupid loser that doesn’t have anything other than hatred. That’s why you don’t get invited to nice parties. You’re full of hatred and denial that’s what makes you losers.

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      Wait let me check the definition of genocide real quick

      Ok, let me see

      Yep, definitely a genocide, mhm