• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I always wonder how people who watch true crime documentaries often end up pro-cop. Like if you pay even the tiniest bit of attention to these cases, it immediately becomes obvious that cops as a group basically don’t do even want to solve crimes, they just want to do violence. And the handful of cops that say they want to solve crimes are fucking dog shit at it because to be a cop you have to have shit for brains.

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      I mildly like cop shows. It’s a nice fantasy where everything gets solved and the line between good guys and bad guys is so clear. But: even in nice fantasy land… there are such glaring problems! Mostly cops believing that, since they are the good guys, they are always justified, laws be dammed. Or nepotism/interferences left and right. Personal matters snowballing. Use of public resources towards personal gains. It’s so obviously possible, I wouldn’t want the real world to work like that!

    • VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Depends on the show. It’s hard to dislike Joe Kenda.

      His whole show is just talking about homicides he solved. He had 387 cases over 23 years with a closure rate of 92%.

      Since his retirement, he has been a bus driver for special needs students.

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      The job is stressful, bullshit pay and about any moron who can follow rules gets in. I expect nothing from them, and that’s what I get.

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        Dahmer killed Konerak about half an hour after the police left the apartment.

        Sounds like he didn’t for very long.

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        Depends on just how diluted it was!

        I was going to make some kind of joke like “unless you are into homeopathy lolol” but the answer is the same for them! They are just thinking of the wrong end of the scale.

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    I’ve been watching Unsolved Mysteries and a lot of them are unsolved because of police incompetence.

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    Jeffrey Dahmer was repeatedly reported to the police for the death stink in his apartment. At least once he was reported by a victim who escaped.

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      He was confronted by police with a victim and they not only let him go about his day, they let him take the victim with him.

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        If you’re referring to his Asian victim who was literally bleeding in front of the cop, yep.

        Cop saw a person of color begging for help and was like, “nah”.

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    No need to abolish them. Just require them pay for personal liability insurance like doctors and other ‘professionals’. Let the soulless insurance companies start weeding out the financial threats and most of the other threats will go with them.

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      Let the terrors of capitalism take hold of them. When police fuck up too much they will become either uninsurable and lose their job without the need for investigation or they quit because they are not making enough to cover their insurance.

      Who am I kidding though. They would pass laws saying companies had to insure them and then subsidize the insurance for the worst offenders.

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        The whole point of making them be insured is to weed out the costly ones. The ones who fuck up and do harm to the innocent. Innocent is a word the msm has abandoned.

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          I totally get that and on the surface it seems like a good thing. It is a fun idea and I like it.

          Another side of me says they will just corrupt it. For instance, not reporting/covering up things to avoid insurance increases. A union pooling insurance so good cops can subsidize bad cops. Local, state, or federal politicians/judges who try to water down these effects with additional laws or judgements against insurance carriers.

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            They cover things up now with no consequences at all. Even when someone brings them to court they just spout qualified immunity and no consequences. Its a idea with teeth just like a national law enforcement database that would keep up with officer incidents. They got really upset about that idea last election. If it upsets them then its undoubtedly good for their victims.

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        The state will have to cover the insurance until the problem is fixed, and insurance can move back to a proper entity. Governor and local will have to crack down on problem precincts.

        Loyds of London will insure just about anything… For the right price.

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      I LOVE PAYING TAXES AND HAVING IT GO TO A WOMAN WHO SUED HER ABUSIVE EX-HUSBAND WHO WAS A FORMER COP WHO BEAT HER HALF TO DEATH.

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          Never will root out the bad. There was an old Dr. Who where the cops are hassling him, “Ah the local constabulary. I’d recognize them in any century.”

          Best bet we got is “defund the police”, use that money for people trained for certain tasks and not just sending bully boys for every disturbance.

          Or, and this ain’t happening, treat police as we should treat teachers. Make it a well-paid profession with strict hiring and training standards, continuing education and accountability. But as long as people are willing to do these stressful jobs for chicken change, 🤷🏻‍♂️.

          There are LOADS of cops in my hood, and we’re lower-middle class at best, with plenty of upper-lower class represented.

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            I think you’re reversing cause and effect. Police lose respect because they perpetrate the violence of rich against poor, powerful against powerless. It’s not that they do these evil things because we don’t respect them. This is their job, it’s the same in any century

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            You’re evidence is a fantasy/drama tv show. That’s so on topic but not in anyway that reflects positively for you.

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    911, what’s your emergency? His head came of?! Is he saying anything? Okay, calm down, and go check for a pulse