This would have played out the same way under Kamala though, right db0?
ICE was designed to shoot innocent US citizens in the face in the middle of the street
Hot take.
Yeah, kind of. It would not be as bad or as brazen but it would be more organized and less noticeable, because the “liberal” branch of the oligarchy (which owns half the media) would keep quiet about it (same as under all other Dem presidents), and the conservative media would just lie so that they can campaign harder on deportations.
The capitalist oligarchs (who actually own both parties) have been ramping up the xenophobic, anti-immigrant rhetoric for a while. Obama still holds the record for most immigrants deported, Biden was strengthening ICE and ramping up the mass deportation machine before Trump was even elected, and Kamala promised to continue Biden’s policies in that regard. See also:
TL;DR voting won’t save your country, it is fucked either way. I would also prefer the slightly slower and less overtly fascist fucking by Kamala, I’d even vote for her, but you need to join those who are building an alternative to the dictatorship of capital. Otherwise it’s going to be a down-spiral of lesser-evil fucking over the country for profit and losing the election, the bigger-evil fucking over the country even harder while pushing the overton window to the right, ad nauseam.
I’m sorry, do you actually think the problem I’m referring to is the number of illegal immigrants being deported?
I’m sorry, the problem is that both parties are subservient to the capital. Voting for Kamala would mean most things are slightly less bad (perhaps there wouldn’t be as many ICE raids), but the overall direction would be similar. Don’t get me wrong, I’d do it still, but it’s not a solution, more like a dirty bandaid on a gaping wound.
In any case, after 4 more years of neoliberals fucking over the working class to increase rate of profits, the people would be angry and would vote for the opposition anyways. It would just be delaying the inevitable. Perhaps the best outcome from Kamala winning would be that you would have more time to build up alternatives to the two-party dictatorship, which is slightly easier when there’s at least a pretense of liberalism and human rights.
ICE is shooting innocent people in the face in broad daylight and the President is running cover for them.
Shut the fuck up with this rhetorical bullshit.
Make sure your lemmy settings are set to show the instances of users. If you see a braindead take from an .ml, you’re not talking with a good faith actor. Don’t take the bait.
Word, lemme fix that on my phone.
Ive blocked all the ml instances I can find but I still see comments from them, does that not work the way I thought it does?
Might depend on the client you’re using. The mobile app is use has a distinction between posts and comments
As opposed to police strangling and shooting innocent people in broad daylight, and the president having the plausible deniability that they can’t stop it, because the system of government is designed that way and neither party wants to change it? Yeah, sounds like a massive difference, that.
I mean, I’m happy that you’re mad about it now, and presumably doing something, but if you stop once dems are back in office the country will inevitably come back to full-blown fascism in another few years.
This kind of bullshit comment is why people equate tankies with fascists.
They are both authoritarian. Both are pretty much identical to me. Authoritarians are just the fucking worst in any aspect.
Tankies are ideological opposite and intellectual equivalent of libertarians. These are not serious people.
What particularly in my comment made you think I support the fascists? (Also, while generally I am pro-USSR, I think sending the army to Budapest was a wrong response to the uprising)
What flavor is that Kool-Aid?
Little extreme, but I get lesser of too evils and so on. I usually tell people I vote based on the pass doings of the parties and what they promise. The pass doings of the Republicans party is a lot worse than the Democrats. Probably should stop voting for old bitter people. Unfurtunately old bitter people do most of the voting.
Yes, it was ultimately inevitable for that country.
For those who don’t know, this is the admin of the dbzer0 instance (the tankie bar), who was also mocking people for voting against Trump in the 2024 election.
Thanks, good to know. I’ve tagged him for the future
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Come on dude, that’s copium. Would it have eventually happened? Sure, the MAGA movement is the new mainstream right wing and this could’ve become a common sentiment through think tank pushes. Would it have happened right now under Kamala? Lmfao fuck no, that’s ridiculous
If you were really saying both sides would’ve been just as bad, just take the L and move on. Kamala wouldn’t have pardoned my country’s drug lord ex-president, among hundreds of other things, and that’s facts.
Copium is still rehashing the same shit election year over and over again every time this dumb fuck does something.
It was inevitable this would have happened given how your “progressives” have been running the country when they were in power for the past 40 years. It was inevitable that the wide-spread alienation and destitution of your populace, while at the same time being told that they’re imagining it, would bring forth a fascist regime. It was inevitable when all the effort of progressives was wasted on electioneering, instead of creating the bottom-up structures that could combat fascism.
Which ones were these “progressives”? Because I very much think that anyone running anything was self-proclaimed moderate at best.
But, considering that you wanted Trump to win anyway, I’m pretty sure you’re just a fucking loser with zero idea of what you’re talking about.
This comment displays American political illiteracy.
I think it could just be regular illiteracy.
Is it me, or are ICEs targets getting whiter and whiter?
Did this guy get stopped because he has a Coexist bumper sticker or some shit?
“We’re gonna get those Lutheran bastards and send em back to Germany where they belong.” --ICE (Probably)
ICE is full of fash, and has complete impunity, so they started to hunt suspected leftists (read: anyone left of Mussolini).
Land of the brave
Home of the free
My Ass
Land of the weak
Home of the slave
Anyone have an actual source for this? I’d share it but not without properly vetting first.
It’s from Getty’s editorial photos.
And here is a related story.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-agents-smash-car-window-detain-man-in-minnesota/ar-AA1U4l4u
Actual source for an ICE agent breaking someone’s window? I would wager it’s happening right now as we type all over the US.
Yeah, I mean no shit.
That doesn’t mean we can just share stuff without a source. We cannot stoop to the same standards. Facebook level investigative integrity isn’t hard to beat…
That’s all well and fine, I agree.
But I also don’t really care anymore. They’re telling America the sky is green and that you didn’t witness a murder. They’re still marching lockstep and a huge portion of this country doesn’t question state media, and they sure as FUCK aren’t asking for sources about much, much bigger things, so a source on a single broken window isn’t going to keep me up at night.
Luckily you weren’t the one who asked for it, and so far no one has asked care.
Sounds like some strangers in police uniform perform illegal abductions.
Doesn’t matter if the govs sent them or not. People should defend themselves. This is why everyone has guns, right? Right?
They travel in gangs of four or more and pick off singles and doubles. Even if you wanted to get in a firefight (bad idea in any case) those are shitty odds.
I’m making sure my friends are travelling in groups. If they don’t have 4 in public I worry they will be next.
But if every teacher had a shotgun the problem could have been solved.
Or you can use grenades to take everyone with you
Ah yes, the good, young Kavanaugh stop
