• TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Exactly what is driving the trend is manifold, but increases in healthcare, education and hospitality jobs — industries dominated by women — compared to shrinking jobs in the male-dominated tech, business, and manufacturing worlds appear to be playing a sizable role, Ullrich said.

    Fewer jobs in business and tech is probably a good thing, but they need to be replaced with manufacturing, construction and jobs in the trades. We need more healthcare workers and more education workers, but we’re going to need more factory workers, construction workers and trade workers, too, when we inevitability realize that a functioning economy needs to build and make things, and not just endlessly move money around.

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      10 days ago

      Do we need more of those jobs? We need less billionaire and parasite class siphoning from everything in society.

      The answer isn’t to make white collar workers do backbreaking jobs on behalf of rich fucks.

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        10 days ago

        Do we need more of those jobs?

        Yes.

        People can’t eat financial analysis. People can’t live in computer code. People can’t heat or light their homes with managerial synergy.

        I don’t think white collar jobs are going to completely disappear, nor should they, but neither can they be the majority of the jobs. We can’t produce enough of the material things we need if most people are working only administrative, finance, tech or other white collar work. The only reason it’s worked well enough over the last 50 years or so is because we moved many of the blue collar jobs to other, poorer countries and became an importer nation. We didn’t stop needing those blue collar jobs we just let poorer people in/from other countries do them instead of us, for pennies on the dollar. I don’t think that’s moral, or sustainable.

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          10 days ago

          I don’t think we really do, I think a lot of those jobs are driven by the needs of the parasite class, not regular people. We need to excise the parasite class, then we can assess our “needs”

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        10 days ago

        What I really disliked was how weaponized all of this became.

        First of all, you had complete assholes laughing at journalists losing their jobs and saying they should “learn to code” because they were told to hate Hillary and so on for the - gasp! - notion of helping people working in the coal industry to transition to something else by retraining. So yeah, that became a phrase that is roundly mocked by the hard right.

        They took messages like the positive one in Shop Class as Soulcraft and twisted it.

        And now these assholes are also actively hoping that people in white collar jobs - most especially tech - are made poor and homeless or something because those are “feminine” jobs and real men need to have more jobs again, etc. The people pushing the very most are, not the least bit ironically, because the right wing loves being hypocritical as hell, usually in right wing think tanks and on the air as talking heads and then pushed by “influencers”. Not one of them are working in trades or in mining coal or in manufacturing…