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Didn’t watch the videos, did you? They didn’t talk to her. They shouted at her, grabbed her door handle to pull her out, then shot her three (four?) times in the head.
But here’s you deliberately mischaracterizing their actions as “talking to her” like that murderous fucking goon did NOT actually transfer his phone out of his shooting hand BEFORE he walked back to the driver’s side window.
But yeah, you go ahead and bury yourself in the massive, overwhelming cognitive dissonance you have to manufacture for yourself to believe that this pack of ICE thugs did this as a group operating in concert because they all just wanted to – let me check your comments again – “talk to her.”
That IS a fascist take. And I’d far rather be an idiot in your eyes than in any sort of alignment with the fascist slop in your head.
EDITED to say I changed my mind – that’s not where he was going, it just seemed that way. He’s not actually batting for the fascists. Read the thread through to the end.
Okay, but I’m looking at all these frantic edits and P.S. additions “for the record” and I am wondering one thing. It’s a serious question, and not intended to disrespect. But I have to ask you:
What happens for you personally if I disregard the evidence of my eyes and lived experience and agree with you?
Because I literally do not have it in my soul to do so, nor does anyone with a conscience. How is it you find yourself standing so far outside of that group, and what does it do for you? Because I would literally, actively rather be dead than to be a person espousing the murder of a traffic violator under the color of law, and if there is some other way I can find human commonality with you I will, just because you’re clearly so invested.
So I ask you again: What happens for you personally if I disregard the evidence of my eyes and lived experience and agree with you?
Let’s find a shortcut that does not require me to sell my soul to third-party fascist propaganda to find the human commonality you seek here.
Well I wouldn’t really call the edits frantic, but I have a bad habit of writing something, and then realizing something could be more clear. You also attacked me pretty hard for using “talk to her” language when I was just going with the existing conversation, and I felt that deserved another reply.
What evidence am I trying to get you to disregard?
She was stopped in the middle of the road, for multiple minutes, impeding traffic while there was an ICE operation going on in the area. These are undisputed facts at this point. These aren’t alternative facts or anything like that, they are facts.
This was also clearly some act of civil disobedience, protest, or as others are suggesting, some form or trying to monitor the situation, but I haven’t seen any legitimate rational for what she did that wasn’t related to ICE activity.
If that activity is meant to impede ICE, then ICE had reason enough to approach her, and I don’t think it’s a stretch for ICE to be able to claim they believed it was related to their ongoing enforcement actions, but that might have to be tried in court.
I never once said that what the ICE officer did afterwards was acceptable or warranted.
We lambaste the far right for ignoring facts or making things up, or jumping to pitch forks on everything, but someone here saying there was no reason for ICE to be talking to her, and then this comment shit storm happening for simply pointing out, ICE had a reason to initiate contact, is the exact same problem we go on about with MAGA. That really saddens me. And honestly I wasn’t looking for this shit storm, I was just trying to inform the misinformed poster about why the ICE officer had initiated contact.
Also, what were learning about what happened is also changing quickly, and people might not even know the latest information, and is in fact what happened here.
OP that I was interacting with eventually replied to me
I have no idea what you’re talking about. I think I’ve seen 6-7 different videos and all of them so far start with her appearing to be turning the car around.
So I replied with the CNN video that has footage that started minutes before the ICE interaction where it shows her blocking the road for minutes.
OP has since said
Okay. So I was wrong initially said that they had no reason to talk to her. What difference does that make anyhow?
You know what would have happened if OP first reply to was that comment about 6-7 videos instead of a veiled accusation that I was saying it was her fault she was murdered?
I would have posted the video, they would have become more informed on the ever changing topic, and it would have been over.
As to what difference it makes - simply that they could properly focus their anger instead of saying something incorrect, which would add more validity to what they write.
So back to your what do i get question…
That there’s still some hope that discourse around opposing MAGA won’t fully go down the MAGA hole on the other end of the spectrum as well. Because if that happens, we might dig ourselves out of one hole, while digging ourselves into another, and comment chains like my reply started really has me fearing that that is the path were headed down.
Edit: P.S. This is a fake edit. I hope I don’t have to make a real edit after calling me out on edits.
Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultra-nationalist political ideology and movement that rose to prominence in early-20th-century Europe. Fascism is characterized by support for a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to communism, democracy, liberalism, pluralism, and socialism, fascism is at the far-right of the traditional left–right spectrum.
I have no idea what you’re talking about. I think I’ve seen 6-7 different videos and all of them so far start with her appearing to be turning the car around.
Ok, thanks for that video. I think they did a great job of putting together the footage and mapping it out. I still don’t think we have info to say she was purposely impeding traffic. I get the impression they were possibly turning around the car and in the process some other cars got impatient and went around them. Then ice approached and escalated instantly like a bunch of murderous Nazis. Ice had a reason to ask them to move or what they were doing, but their actual reaction was fucking psychotic and violent.
Did you miss the part of the extended video where she waves along several ICE vehicles that get past her without issue and without even having to turn? One ICE vehicle, after several have already passed, decides to stop and surround her vehicle. She was not impeding them at all.
Existing in proximity to ICE agents is impeding their operations only because the knuckle-dragging morons are incapable of leaving well enough alone. They could literally have just ignored her and it’d be as if she wasn’t even there.
No, I’m saying you were flat out wrong in your assertion that she did nothing to be approached by law enforcement officers.
Take you pitchfork elsewhere and at least know WTF you’re talking about.
Not even what I said but thanks for the fascist take
Hey man, you go ahead and park your car like she did somewhere populated and see how long until a cop comes to talk to you.
You’re an idiot if you think thats a fascist take.
Didn’t watch the videos, did you? They didn’t talk to her. They shouted at her, grabbed her door handle to pull her out, then shot her three (four?) times in the head.But here’s you deliberately mischaracterizing their actions as “talking to her” like that murderous fucking goon did NOT actually transfer his phone out of his shooting hand BEFORE he walked back to the driver’s side window.But yeah, you go ahead and bury yourself in the massive, overwhelming cognitive dissonance you have to manufacture for yourself to believe that this pack of ICE thugs did this as a group operating in concert because they all just wanted to – let me check your comments again – “talk to her.”That IS a fascist take. And I’d far rather be an idiot in your eyes than in any sort of alignment with the fascist slop in your head.EDITED to say I changed my mind – that’s not where he was going, it just seemed that way. He’s not actually batting for the fascists. Read the thread through to the end.
All I’m saying is they had every single right to initiate contact. What happens after that is completely another matter.
Because she blocked the road and impeded their job.
End of fucking story.
Edit: And ya, you’re all idiots if you can’t see that.
Edit: And yes i’ve seen the videos, and 3d modelling and all that shit of what happened, including her parking in the road that intiated the contact.
For all your edits you quoted someone else to me, lol. You’re not even paying attention.
also, for the record OP was using the “talk to her” language.
Okay, but I’m looking at all these frantic edits and P.S. additions “for the record” and I am wondering one thing. It’s a serious question, and not intended to disrespect. But I have to ask you:
What happens for you personally if I disregard the evidence of my eyes and lived experience and agree with you?
Because I literally do not have it in my soul to do so, nor does anyone with a conscience. How is it you find yourself standing so far outside of that group, and what does it do for you? Because I would literally, actively rather be dead than to be a person espousing the murder of a traffic violator under the color of law, and if there is some other way I can find human commonality with you I will, just because you’re clearly so invested.
So I ask you again: What happens for you personally if I disregard the evidence of my eyes and lived experience and agree with you?
Let’s find a shortcut that does not require me to sell my soul to third-party fascist propaganda to find the human commonality you seek here.
EDITED a word
Well I wouldn’t really call the edits frantic, but I have a bad habit of writing something, and then realizing something could be more clear. You also attacked me pretty hard for using “talk to her” language when I was just going with the existing conversation, and I felt that deserved another reply.
What evidence am I trying to get you to disregard?
She was stopped in the middle of the road, for multiple minutes, impeding traffic while there was an ICE operation going on in the area. These are undisputed facts at this point. These aren’t alternative facts or anything like that, they are facts.
This was also clearly some act of civil disobedience, protest, or as others are suggesting, some form or trying to monitor the situation, but I haven’t seen any legitimate rational for what she did that wasn’t related to ICE activity.
If that activity is meant to impede ICE, then ICE had reason enough to approach her, and I don’t think it’s a stretch for ICE to be able to claim they believed it was related to their ongoing enforcement actions, but that might have to be tried in court.
I never once said that what the ICE officer did afterwards was acceptable or warranted.
We lambaste the far right for ignoring facts or making things up, or jumping to pitch forks on everything, but someone here saying there was no reason for ICE to be talking to her, and then this comment shit storm happening for simply pointing out, ICE had a reason to initiate contact, is the exact same problem we go on about with MAGA. That really saddens me. And honestly I wasn’t looking for this shit storm, I was just trying to inform the misinformed poster about why the ICE officer had initiated contact.
Also, what were learning about what happened is also changing quickly, and people might not even know the latest information, and is in fact what happened here.
OP that I was interacting with eventually replied to me
So I replied with the CNN video that has footage that started minutes before the ICE interaction where it shows her blocking the road for minutes.
OP has since said
You know what would have happened if OP first reply to was that comment about 6-7 videos instead of a veiled accusation that I was saying it was her fault she was murdered?
I would have posted the video, they would have become more informed on the ever changing topic, and it would have been over.
As to what difference it makes - simply that they could properly focus their anger instead of saying something incorrect, which would add more validity to what they write.
So back to your what do i get question…
That there’s still some hope that discourse around opposing MAGA won’t fully go down the MAGA hole on the other end of the spectrum as well. Because if that happens, we might dig ourselves out of one hole, while digging ourselves into another, and comment chains like my reply started really has me fearing that that is the path were headed down.
Edit: P.S. This is a fake edit. I hope I don’t have to make a real edit after calling me out on edits.
I quoted what started this whole thing.
Dude said that, tthen I replied, and then he accused me of saying saying it was her fault she
killed herselfgot murdered.Also for the record:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism (emphases mine)
I have no idea what you’re talking about. I think I’ve seen 6-7 different videos and all of them so far start with her appearing to be turning the car around.
Here you go
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/09/us/ice-shooting-minneapolis-renee-good-cell-phone-invs
You can start around the 40 second mark. They say she was there for a couple of minutes moving back and forth before the incident with ICE started.
Ok, thanks for that video. I think they did a great job of putting together the footage and mapping it out. I still don’t think we have info to say she was purposely impeding traffic. I get the impression they were possibly turning around the car and in the process some other cars got impatient and went around them. Then ice approached and escalated instantly like a bunch of murderous Nazis. Ice had a reason to ask them to move or what they were doing, but their actual reaction was fucking psychotic and violent.
She was there for minutes. There’s no real situation where she wasn’t doing that intentionally.
Okay. So I was wrong initially said that they had no reason to talk to her. What difference does that make anyhow?
Wouldn’t you rather direct your anger without including incorrect information? It’s more impactful that way.
Ice are not traffic cops moron.
She was impeding them. That gives them the ability to talk to her, traffic cop or not, wow.
OP can’t even understand why they were talking to her.
Did you miss the part of the extended video where she waves along several ICE vehicles that get past her without issue and without even having to turn? One ICE vehicle, after several have already passed, decides to stop and surround her vehicle. She was not impeding them at all.
Yes I saw that video.
That is still impeding. Impeding doesn’t only mean completely stopped / blocked or prevented.
Existing in proximity to ICE agents is impeding their operations only because the knuckle-dragging morons are incapable of leaving well enough alone. They could literally have just ignored her and it’d be as if she wasn’t even there.
Why do the dumbest fucking people alive just think they can spout off what they imagine the rules are from the top of their head?
And why do you think she parked in the middle of the road like she did?
Obviously to carry out her premeditated murder scheme