• RedFrank24@piefed.social
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    11 days ago

    I want to enjoy Idiocracy, but there’s this undercurrent of eugenics in there that I’m not ever so fond of…

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      11 days ago

      It’s the comedic premise of the movie, it’s not like it perpetuates the racist notions that were the real problem with pseudoscience like eugenics.

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      10 days ago

      It’s a completely absurdist theme. The people insisting it reflects reality in any way are the ones that bother me.

      Still, it’s a simple movie with simple jokes. The kind of thing maybe worth watching once, and not worth thinking about.

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        10 days ago

        It only bothers me when people are hung up on the genetics aspect.

        People (broadly statistically) tend to grow up to be similar to thier parents in terms of values. Not so much because of DNA, but because of how they were raised.

        The premise holds even if you toss away anything to do with biology. (Which you should)

        Idiots tend to have idiot kids because they raised them in idiot households, and idiots tend to have more kids.

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          6 days ago

          If you toss the eugenics, all thats left is an obvious spite against poor people. Because the “idiots” in the movie are just common caricatures of poor people

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            6 days ago

            That’s an interesting perspective.

            In the “nature vs nurture” debate, I don’t think I’ve heard anyone so emphatically proclaim: “Niether!”

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                5 days ago

                The very first line. You are asserting that if you throw away a genetic argument (which in every single post I’ve made, you’ll see that I am encouraging everyone to do) that “all that is left” is hating poor people. This dichotomy that you introduced leaves no third option of behaviors being transferred via concious or unconscious emulation of parental figures.

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          10 days ago

          Idiots tend to have idiot kids because they raised them in idiot households

          Random people are usually way smarter than people give them credit. Idiots are an exception, though I have no idea how hey are distributed.

          and idiots tend to have more kids

          That’s completely unfundamented idea that was created to support some racist movements. One would think that movie made a clear enough point to convince anybody this is bullshit…