The entire Israeli political spectrum is united in blasting Netanyahu for not continuing to attack Iran, and Israeli society agrees. The reason, to put it simply, is that Israelis are war junkies.
The entire Israeli political spectrum is united in blasting Netanyahu for not continuing to attack Iran, and Israeli society agrees. The reason, to put it simply, is that Israelis are war junkies.
Israel and the US are birds of a feather. Whenever I criticize the US role in this shit, people blame Israel. Now I’m criticizing Israel’s role and you’re trying to blame the US. It’s a completely meaningless distinction, they’re in bed together and they do all this shit together. You’re just playing debatebro and latching onto whatever bullshit you can find to try to label me as antisemitic like you Zionazis fucks always do.
You treat this like some kind of fucking game with your smuglord shit. Fuck off back to Reddit, asshole, no one wants you here.
Oh, I must have missed all the comments calling every America a nation comprised entirely of Nazis and war junkies, let me double check… no, still can’t find them. Weird.
Now I’m criticizing Israel’s role and you’re trying to blame the US.
No, what you’re now doing is throwing insults at me. There’s no actual criticism, you just decided Israelis are demons from hell, and are enraged someone is trying to show they’re human beings.
You’re just playing debatebro
I’m disagreeing with the conclusion of the opinion piece this post is about and trying to have a normal talk about it in order to understand how you view things.
and latching onto whatever bullshit you can find
You’ve shown a picture of a bombing made by the US and are blaming it on Israel. It’s not some small minor detail.
to try to label me as antisemitic
I really wasn’t, I was giving you a chance to correct yourself. All you had to say was “OK, that was the fault of the US, my bad for mislabeling the image. Of course I wasn’t trying to say Israel is controlling the US”. Maybe throw in a “That said, Israel has also bombed schools and hospitals”. Granted, that takes a bit more effort than calling me a Nazi for the 14th time and would require you to have just a smidge of self criticism.
no one wants you here.
Right, God forbid you might encounter a different opinion. Don’t forget to make fun of Republicans for being willfully stuck in an echo chamber.
I didn’t say Israel didn’t do anything wrong or that it’s all the Palestinians fault. I just said the reason Israelis want to destroy Iran’s missile and nuclear programs is mainly because they are genuinely afraid Iran is developing said programs to be used against them, and that fear isn’t unreasonable. You’re acting like even considering this possibility is the same as being pro-genocide.
Oh, I must have missed all the comments calling every America a nation comprised entirely of Nazis and war junkies, let me double check… no, still can’t find them. Weird.
America has plenty of Nazis and war junkies, but at least in this particular case, most people are opposing the war.
It’s very rare for that to happen. When the US invaded Afghanistan, Bush was sitting at around a 90% approval rating. A strong majority of Americans supported invading Vietnam. US military spending is higher than the next nine countries combined, a fact which I harp on constantly. Even so, it’s simply factual that Israelis are much more supportive of the Iranian War and the genocide in Gaza than Americans are. So you’re wrong on two counts, first that Israelis are more bloodthirsty than Americans (facts are not antisemetic, btw no matter how much you don’t like them), and second that I do frequently criticize Americans for being bloodthirsty.
You’ve shown a picture of a bombing made by the US and are blaming it on Israel. It’s not some small minor detail.
It is a minor detail. An incredibly minor, insignificant detail. The US and Israel are in this war together, it’s a joint operation. Both commit frequent atrocities. You even acknowledge the fact that Israel has bombed schools and hospitals, which means there’s zero actual point to the distinction you’re making.
It’s pure bad faith, hasbara tactics. You’re latching on to whatever insignificant detail allows you to defend Israel and denounce it’s critics as antisemitic. You’re completely full of shit.
I just said the reason Israelis want to destroy Iran’s missile and nuclear programs is mainly because they are genuinely afraid Iran is developing said programs to be used against them, and that fear isn’t unreasonable
What about Iran? Do Iranians get to be afraid of Israel’s nukes? Why does the “reasonable” fear only go one way? Israel is an extremely beligerant, genocidal, expansionist, nuclear armed country. Iran is none of those things.
But people like you don’t consider Iranians to be human beings. White people get to have “reasonable” fears. Brown people get their faces shoved into the dirt, their children slaughtered, and anything short of “thank you sir, may I have another?” is labelled as antisemitism by you fucks. You lost every ounce of credibility the moment you dropped that “blood libel” accusation. Fuck off.
America has plenty of Nazis and war junkies, but at least in this particular case, most people are opposing the war.
It is a minor detail. An incredibly minor, insignificant detail. The US and Israel are in this war together
You’re jumping from “The US and Israel are the same” so you can blame Israel on something the US did, and “Israel is worse” when asked why you aren’t judging them equally.
You’re latching on to whatever insignificant detail
But if
allows you to defend Israel
If you would actually try to understand what I’m saying, you could see I’m not defending Israel, but defending Israelis.
denounce it’s critics as antisemitic.
I didn’t say you were antisemitic, I said one of your arguments is very close to an argument used by antisemites. I also tried to address said argument regardless, which blows a hole through the argument I’m trying to deflect criticism.
Do Iranians get to be afraid of Israel’s nukes?
Of course they do. And if a survey showed that most Iranians support a war with Israel, I wouldn’t try to paint them as war junkies. I already said as much regarding Palestinians here. Though I have a feeling Iranians are probably more afraid of getting gunned down at a protest or being beaten for not covering their hair. It’s a good thing that isn’t Israels doing, otherwise you’d have to show the same moral outrage for that too.
All parties involved (Iran, the US and Israel) are in this situation because each country is led by corrupt idiots, religious nuts and egomaniacs that think using violence will help them stay in power. From those three, I give Iranians the most credit because they at least didn’t vote for their psychos.
My turn to ask a question - What rights do the Jewish people get as far as living in a sovereign country? Or is any act of violence against any Jewish Israeli is justified? Before you’ll try to twist my question - I’m not saying Israel is free to do anything, just asking if you think it’s free to do something.
You lost every ounce of credibility the moment you dropped that “blood libel” accusation.
Please point out any credibility you were willing to give me before.
The entire Israeli political spectrum is united in blasting Netanyahu for not continuing to attack Iran, and Israeli society agrees. The reason, to put it simply, is that Israelis are war junkies.
Israel and the US are birds of a feather. Whenever I criticize the US role in this shit, people blame Israel. Now I’m criticizing Israel’s role and you’re trying to blame the US. It’s a completely meaningless distinction, they’re in bed together and they do all this shit together. You’re just playing debatebro and latching onto whatever bullshit you can find to try to label me as antisemitic like you Zionazis fucks always do.
You treat this like some kind of fucking game with your smuglord shit. Fuck off back to Reddit, asshole, no one wants you here.
Oh, I must have missed all the comments calling every America a nation comprised entirely of Nazis and war junkies, let me double check… no, still can’t find them. Weird.
No, what you’re now doing is throwing insults at me. There’s no actual criticism, you just decided Israelis are demons from hell, and are enraged someone is trying to show they’re human beings.
I’m disagreeing with the conclusion of the opinion piece this post is about and trying to have a normal talk about it in order to understand how you view things.
You’ve shown a picture of a bombing made by the US and are blaming it on Israel. It’s not some small minor detail.
I really wasn’t, I was giving you a chance to correct yourself. All you had to say was “OK, that was the fault of the US, my bad for mislabeling the image. Of course I wasn’t trying to say Israel is controlling the US”. Maybe throw in a “That said, Israel has also bombed schools and hospitals”. Granted, that takes a bit more effort than calling me a Nazi for the 14th time and would require you to have just a smidge of self criticism.
Right, God forbid you might encounter a different opinion. Don’t forget to make fun of Republicans for being willfully stuck in an echo chamber.
I didn’t say Israel didn’t do anything wrong or that it’s all the Palestinians fault. I just said the reason Israelis want to destroy Iran’s missile and nuclear programs is mainly because they are genuinely afraid Iran is developing said programs to be used against them, and that fear isn’t unreasonable. You’re acting like even considering this possibility is the same as being pro-genocide.
America has plenty of Nazis and war junkies, but at least in this particular case, most people are opposing the war.
It’s very rare for that to happen. When the US invaded Afghanistan, Bush was sitting at around a 90% approval rating. A strong majority of Americans supported invading Vietnam. US military spending is higher than the next nine countries combined, a fact which I harp on constantly. Even so, it’s simply factual that Israelis are much more supportive of the Iranian War and the genocide in Gaza than Americans are. So you’re wrong on two counts, first that Israelis are more bloodthirsty than Americans (facts are not antisemetic, btw no matter how much you don’t like them), and second that I do frequently criticize Americans for being bloodthirsty.
It is a minor detail. An incredibly minor, insignificant detail. The US and Israel are in this war together, it’s a joint operation. Both commit frequent atrocities. You even acknowledge the fact that Israel has bombed schools and hospitals, which means there’s zero actual point to the distinction you’re making.
It’s pure bad faith, hasbara tactics. You’re latching on to whatever insignificant detail allows you to defend Israel and denounce it’s critics as antisemitic. You’re completely full of shit.
What about Iran? Do Iranians get to be afraid of Israel’s nukes? Why does the “reasonable” fear only go one way? Israel is an extremely beligerant, genocidal, expansionist, nuclear armed country. Iran is none of those things.
But people like you don’t consider Iranians to be human beings. White people get to have “reasonable” fears. Brown people get their faces shoved into the dirt, their children slaughtered, and anything short of “thank you sir, may I have another?” is labelled as antisemitism by you fucks. You lost every ounce of credibility the moment you dropped that “blood libel” accusation. Fuck off.
You’re jumping from “The US and Israel are the same” so you can blame Israel on something the US did, and “Israel is worse” when asked why you aren’t judging them equally.
If you would actually try to understand what I’m saying, you could see I’m not defending Israel, but defending Israelis.
I didn’t say you were antisemitic, I said one of your arguments is very close to an argument used by antisemites. I also tried to address said argument regardless, which blows a hole through the argument I’m trying to deflect criticism.
Of course they do. And if a survey showed that most Iranians support a war with Israel, I wouldn’t try to paint them as war junkies. I already said as much regarding Palestinians here. Though I have a feeling Iranians are probably more afraid of getting gunned down at a protest or being beaten for not covering their hair. It’s a good thing that isn’t Israels doing, otherwise you’d have to show the same moral outrage for that too.
All parties involved (Iran, the US and Israel) are in this situation because each country is led by corrupt idiots, religious nuts and egomaniacs that think using violence will help them stay in power. From those three, I give Iranians the most credit because they at least didn’t vote for their psychos.
My turn to ask a question - What rights do the Jewish people get as far as living in a sovereign country? Or is any act of violence against any Jewish Israeli is justified? Before you’ll try to twist my question - I’m not saying Israel is free to do anything, just asking if you think it’s free to do something.
Please point out any credibility you were willing to give me before.