• mrdown@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    And expert in the field can know how long it would take for a technical task to be done so when it says 3 weeks i believe it. Saying 60% of enriched uranium can’t be used as a negociation tool is just speculation . If iran plan was to build a nuke and enrich to 90% american and israeli inteligence would have known about it. If iran wanted a nuke it would have done it , it is very logical since they was at 60% for years before the 12 days war

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      11 days ago

      Show citations that:

      1. Iran can get to 90% within three weeks.

      2. That is the only thing stopping Iran from building a nuclear bomb.

      3. Iran had the means to launch a nuclear bomb at Israel.

      4. That is the only thing stopping Iran from being able to actually hit Israel with a nuclear bomb (hint: Israel has some experience at stopping Iranian missiles).

      5. Iran views a nuclear bomb as their only option of annihilating Israel at this moment.

      If iran plan was to build a nuke and enrich to 90% american and israeli inteligence would have known about it.

      I don’t know that they don’t know about it. You’re the one who said that the US intelligence believe Iran isn’t aiming to build a nuke, but didn’t provide any source to that claim. And if they did know about it, you would have called it speculation, like you did to the same statement that was brought up in you own citation that has also been made by experts in their field.

      Also, why should we stop at 90%? If tomorrow we’ll find proof Iran has enriched to 90%, you could claim “Well, they just enriched to 90% as a negotiation tool. Now they’re putting the uranium in a bomb only as a negotiation tool. Look, they’re putting the bomb on a missile as a negotiation tool, they clearly don’t plan to actually use it. Now they’re doing a countdown as a negotiation tool. Don’t worry, they launched the missile, but it’s just a tool to speed negotiations, they’ll overshoot Israel and the missile will harmlessly hit the ocean”.

      By your logic, no one has any plan to do anything if they have the technical means to do so but didn’t do it. Except even then you have a factual mistake, as 90% enriched uranium isn’t the only thing Iran lacks to launch a nuclear missile.

      Oh, and your claim is somewhat self-contradictory - If it’s so clear Iran is enriching uranium as a negotiation tactic, doesn’t that make the tactic pointless? Like, if I’m negotiating with someone and I make a claim that I clearly know the other side knows is false, how does that help my case? That’s like Trump level negotiations, and Iran isn’t that dumb.

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        11 days ago

        US intelligence believe Iran isn’t aiming to build a nuke, but didn’t provide any source to that claim

        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/20/trump-says-us-intelligence-wrong-about-iran-not-building-nuclear-bomb

        Also, why should we stop at 90%? If tomorrow we’ll find proof Iran has enriched to 90%, you could claim “Well, they just enriched to 90% as a negotiation tool.

        No I would not claim that. 90% is weapon grade enrichment, 60% is not

        Oh, and your claim is somewhat self-contradictory - If it’s so clear Iran is enriching uranium as a negotiation tactic, doesn’t that make the tactic pointless?

        Before the usa started the second aggression on Iran. Iran was willing to agree for zero enrichment proving again the point . Iran only enriching to 60% after Trump teared up the deal and Iran agreeing to zero enrichment . Those two evidence shows that Iran did not seek a nuke but to negotiate. The failure do not prove that it was just an excuse by Iran

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          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/20/trump-says-us-intelligence-wrong-about-iran-not-building-nuclear-bomb

          Sorry, “United States President Donald Trump has said…” isn’t really a reliable source for me.

          No I would not claim that. 90% is weapon grade enrichment, 60% is not

          But 60% lacks any civilian uses, so the most obvious reason to go to 60% is because it’s between 20% and 90%…

          Those two evidence shows that Iran did not seek a nuke but to negotiate.

          Now you’re just switching arguments. That doesn’t really address what I said about you argument being self-contradictory.

          Anyway, I think I’ve learned all I can from you. Feel free to have the last word.

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            Sorry, “United States President Donald Trump has said…” isn’t really a reliable source for me

            Yes trump is not a reliable source yet you agree with Him and spread his lie. The American intelligence is , it said Iran was not seeking a nuke

            But 60% lacks any civilian uses, so the most obvious reason to go to 60% is because it’s between 20% and 90%…

            Again yes 60% for civilian has little civilian usage but can be used in negotiation

            Now you’re just switching arguments. That doesn’t really address

            I did not. Those two arguments shows that Iran was not seeking a nuke but rather was willing to give up enrichment

            Anyway, I think I’ve learned all I can from you. Feel free to have the last word.

            I learned that you are a zionist scum trying to manufacture consent for the USA and Israel aggression on Iran