• red_tomato@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    If you found happiness through religion, good for you. Everyone has their own ways.

    The problem starts when you think happiness can only come from religion.

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      25 days ago

      Everyone has their own ways.

      Yes, but not all ways are equally healthy. If you need to believe in falsehoods to be happy in life, that’s objectively a less productive coping skill than one that doesn’t involve that. Personally, as a society, I strongly feel we should be setting the bar higher. It should be an embarrassment to have such beliefs.

      Mind you, I would never an am not advocating anything like legislature to enforce anything. Cultural change can’t be legislated. I just firmly believe in such change.

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        25 days ago

        I mean, if falsehoods are the only way you can cope with the shit world we live in and be happy and you’re not pushing it on anyone else go for it. I’m not religious but it’s not like I’ve found an alternative. Best I can do is drink to shut off the part of my brain that’s constantly ruminating on shit. That’s not particularly productive either.

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          24 days ago

          The main problem I have is that it normalizes lazy, magical thinking. And this leads to shit like anti-science, anti-vax, anti-intellectual shit and people suffer and die because of it

  • Lucy :3@feddit.org
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    25 days ago

    Fun fact: The exact same tactics were used by Hitler. The result is even similar, too.

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    For once, it would be interesting to see an atheistic opinion include theism instead of just the usual bullshit from the twelve tribes of Judah.

    There’s many religions and philosophies that discuss their misuse, being only when in times of struggle. There are many religions that dgaf if you follow them or not and are definitely not predatory.

    But as usual, the online atheist only knows of one theism when talking about “all religion”; Christianity.

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      24 days ago

      Be the change you want to see in the world. Unless you just want people not to talk about what they’re most familiar with for aome reason.

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        Oh, for sure. But as an atheist, I don’t tarnish the idea by being narrow-minded and exclusively anti-Abrahamic.

        I’m of the opinion that you can’t be atheistic without first knowing theism. Knowing just one of them is a start.

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          Wild. I don’t think there is a pre-requisite knowledge to be an atheist. All babies are born atheists. Religion is learned later.

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            No, they are not. To be an atheist, you must have first heard about and understood the concept of gods, thus being then able to form the ism (idea) that you are without them.

            No ism can be born into as they are not states of being, they are ideas, concepts, opinions, etc. States of being end with -ic.

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              20 days ago

              I don’t see the point of this distinction. When I say “an atheist” i mean only and exactly a person who does not believe any gods exist.

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                Yeah, and that’s correct for you. However a newborn doesn’t know what gods are, so they’re unable to adhere to a belief, opinion, idea, concept, etc (Isms) in whether gods exist or not. It is not that they don’t believe gods exist, it’s that they are unable to believe or disbelieve, since they don’t know what gods are yet.

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                  Do you often find it useful to talk about “people who do not believe in gods but are aware of the concept” while explicitly excluding “people who do not believe in gods and are not aware of the concept”? That seems like such a rare distinction to need to make.

  • Cruel@programming.dev
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    24 days ago

    Something helps people cope with tragedies of life.

    “What a predator!”

    Yeah, like how medical professionals enrich themselves from the ill. Vermin!

    Amazes me what counts as profound comments here.