Liberals, please stop with leading with the legal minutiae. Stop pretending that you would’ve been fine with this if only Trump had congressional approval. You know it’s just about oil and imperialism. Trump literally spelt it out for you. Stop censoring yourself because you think its “strategic”. Its not.
Maybe when conservatives stop playing “gotcha” games - attacking the absolute slightest imperfection in any liberal’s argument, all the while completely ignoring/blowing off the constant flat out blatant lies and lies of omission made by their so-called “leaders,” Maybe.
Why are you playing by conservative gotcha games then? Just say what you believe and say it as loud as you can. It is indeed a shouting match, not a debate.
Protests are shouting matches. We’re not talking about general discussion. Do you censor yourself in general discussion because conservatives play gotcha games with you? How is that honest communication?
Maybe we’re reading things differently, but I thought their sign implied that fairly strongly, just that they wanted to tack “Trump is a criminal” onto that without drastically increasing the wording.
Maybe that’s what they intended but I’ve noticed a trend of liberals immediately triangulating themselves into this “least-controversial” legalistic take because they don’t want to talk about Maduro. A stalinist waving a PSUV flag is more helpful at that point.
I’m not accusing you in particular of this or OP for that matter.
Quit calling people you don’t know liberals. That’s a trend that needs to stop, comrade.
Most of the people you say that shit to are on our side, they just don’t put the terms and thoughts together.
Also, go complain to the protestors, or better yet, be at the protests.
If you want real change, quit nitpicking people on lemmy.
Liberals, please stop with leading with the legal minutiae. Stop pretending that you would’ve been fine with this if only Trump had congressional approval. You know it’s just about oil and imperialism. Trump literally spelt it out for you. Stop censoring yourself because you think its “strategic”. Its not.
Fuck your congressional approval. Get a UN resolution. Nothing liberal about following international law.
Lmao international law and the UN was literally a Liberal Invention.
If even they had UN approval the US shouldnt invade Venezuela.
What matters first and foremost is the will of the people actually living in the country.
Maybe when conservatives stop playing “gotcha” games - attacking the absolute slightest imperfection in any liberal’s argument, all the while completely ignoring/blowing off the constant flat out blatant lies and lies of omission made by their so-called “leaders,” Maybe.
Why are you playing by conservative gotcha games then? Just say what you believe and say it as loud as you can. It is indeed a shouting match, not a debate.
I prefer honest communication. Without that, there’s no point in saying/shouting anything at all. I prefer to waste my time in more satisfying ways.
Protests are shouting matches. We’re not talking about general discussion. Do you censor yourself in general discussion because conservatives play gotcha games with you? How is that honest communication?
Saying “Trump did X and broke the law doing it” is not the same thing as saying “This would be fine if Trump had done it through legal channels”.
I literally said I know you oppose the action. Put that on the sign, its the most important thing.
Maybe we’re reading things differently, but I thought their sign implied that fairly strongly, just that they wanted to tack “Trump is a criminal” onto that without drastically increasing the wording.
Maybe that’s what they intended but I’ve noticed a trend of liberals immediately triangulating themselves into this “least-controversial” legalistic take because they don’t want to talk about Maduro. A stalinist waving a PSUV flag is more helpful at that point.
I’m not accusing you in particular of this or OP for that matter.
Quit calling people you don’t know liberals. That’s a trend that needs to stop, comrade. Most of the people you say that shit to are on our side, they just don’t put the terms and thoughts together.
Also, go complain to the protestors, or better yet, be at the protests.
If you want real change, quit nitpicking people on lemmy.
Isn’t everyone on this site a liberal though? I don’t think I’ve seen a single conservative on here.
Most people on most instances here I’ve encountered appear to be leftist more than liberal.
Aren’t those the same thing? Liberals are to the left.