Right, then they didn’t solve the problem.

Thank you for the discussion though!

They created this narrative that people are lazy and sadly it has been very effective.

That’s not me falling for a narrative, I’ve been in group projects, that’s my lived experience. I’m telling you I’ve seen it and you’re telling me that’s actually not true and theoretically impossible. Which is ridiculous.

Also, being useless doesn’t equal being lazy. People can be very busy and work themselves to the bone and accomplish nothing. But I’ve also still seen people be lazy and wanting to earn credit for my efforts.

I did read the critique of the gothaer program, I’m not going to read an entire book to maybe find an argument that supports you.

My position is that both Kropotkin and Marx didn’t talk or solve the issue I’m talking about, and if you want to prove that wrong, I want you to find a specific quote, page or chapter that does contain that argument. I’m not going to prove your point against me for you.

Kind of.

…so in what way does that excuse keeping a system where an owning class takes the vast and ever-increasing majority of the fruits of everyone’s labor, whether they work hard enough or not?

It doesn’t.

But if I have the choice of either supporting the current system that exploits me and unfairly distributes my labor to rich people who don’t deserve it, and the alternative is a system that also exploits me and also unfairly distributes my labor, just to people who also don’t deserve it, they’re just not rich…

That doesn’t exactly motivate me to support a system change, because from my point of view, it’s effectively the same system.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not without empathy. I’d just like to limit my support to those who are actually victims of chance in an uncaring universe instead of those who are self-sabotaging and crying me a river about it.

Marx doesn’t resolve it at all, he doesn’t even bring it up and there are no chapters on mutual aid in the conquest of bread.

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/23428/pg23428.txt

see?

Sure and I agree with that.

But this isn’t a situation where you can point to a different group of lazy twats. They all should contribute, and pointing to those where it’s especially egregious doesn’t touch on everyone else’s obligation to contribute in any way.

Yeah, I will also ask for a source on the “resolution” for that, if you have it.

This is true.

…but if you’ve never been in a group project where one person does nothing and demands equal praise, compensation, etc… you’re lying.

That’s one of the big theoretical problems with socialism, you want equality, but plenty of people think they’re helping when they’re doing jack and then they get defensive when you suggest they do something for the community too.

And that’s not about people who genuinely need help and support and actually can’t be expected to deliver the same work as someone who objectively doesn’t need that help. People who need help should be helped.

The mandatory cinema consumption featuring great leader’s family will continue until morale improves.

It was literally started less than 2 months ago, it’s going pretty well for a national movement. I don’t think it’s explicitly limited to German only, if you want to do an event, you can sign up on the website and do it.

If I search “Iron” on wikipedia I’m looking for facts

Not what I meant.

The point is: there is an established group of editors, with established rules and preconceptions, an established interpretation on what good sources are and what a neutral perspective is and isn’t, and there is no chance of changing those and that is why I have no interest in interacting with wikipedia in any constructive way.

I could talk about politics too, I picked video games because I know those articles are also bad.

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Yes.

Yet behind the celebrations, a troubling pattern has developed: The volunteer community that built this encyclopedia has lately rejected a key innovation designed to serve readers.

But not that one, because rejecting AI 1) is not a generational rejection and 2) it is correct to reject it.

What I think is or will be the generational problem: the community that maintains it and decides what is being accepted or rejected is an “in group” that it is impossible to break into with conflicting ideas. For example, I do think the gaming, game mechanics and game development related pages can be vastly improved. But I don’t think the people responsible for those pages are interested in the changes I would suggest.

All the wikis for different games could just be on wikipedia. But they’re not, probably because they were rejected, because it’s “not relevant”. Well, some people decided they were relevant after all and they made their own wikis for those. The outcome is tribalism based fragmentation, because of differences in opinion of who values what and what should be preserved and what shouldn’t.

Thanks!

Please link to a source when you say things like that.

But they so generously extended their blackmail ultimatum date support!! Why won’t people switch? It’s so weird. Don’t they know that MS CEO Satya Nadela ($1.1 Bil) has their best interest at heart, always?

This isn’t a rich dumbass like Trump. It’s always interesting to listen to him.

Noooobody cares where the model comes from once it’s already trained and being run in a sandbox.

All he’s trying to do here, is play for time to get people to stay invested in the US but move out of US businesses himself and into longer term assets like gold. He’s playing the “panic” and “china bad” cards to do it. Don’t believe him and divest. Do it before the US crashes.

Pretty insightful. Key takeaways:

1. linear growth didn’t really happen like that
2. pre-planning would be good
3. experience of tax collectors skimming the surplus, plus hazards of rural life.

In short, this is a social faux pas that you didn’t know about, because you’re new to asking questions online.

And as you can see from the existence of that wikihow page: it’s a common problem and you are not the first or the last to run into this. Sorry.

https://www.wikihow.com/Ask-a-Question-on-the-Internet-and-Get-It-Answered

Learn the culture of the forum. Every community on the internet has its own style and set of rules (both written and unwritten). Spend some time reading through other posts before making your own. This will help you learn the etiquette for that specific forum. Knowing how to ask your question in a way that fits in with that culture can really help you get the answers you need.

Make your title a succinct version of your question.

Go into detail in the body of the message. After writing the title, explain the details in the body. List specific problems and what you have tried so far.

Describing what you have tried so far, is extremely important.

Writing it out can make you go through the thinking steps necessary and you will answer your own question in the process of asking it. That’s so common it’s called “rubber ducking”. Everyone does it. But if you don’t do the writing, people can be cross because you’re asking a question you didn’t need to ask.

Keep an open mind. There’s a chance that you won’t like the answer you receive. There’s also a chance that the answer that you don’t like is the only available option. Make sure to keep an open mind about your responses, and try to avoid getting defensive.

Don’t give up. If you don’t receive any responses, or the responses are not satisfactory, take some time to examine your question. Was it specific enough? Did you ask too many questions? Was the answer easily obtained through a web search? Is the question even answerable? Rework your question and ask it again, either in the same place or a new one. Never believe that you are entitled to an answer. Responders volunteer their time to help out other users. No one owes you an answer, so you should avoid acting like they do.

There are different kinds of communities that have different levels of professionalism and question asking culture. You picked one at random at the wrong level.

I promise you not every community online is like that. Try a different one.

And also, you didn’t do your research for this question either. Or you could have found the wikihow page. 😜

2023 reddit exodus. I use both though. I have looked for a viable reddit alternative for a long time, this one works and has people posting stuff. Fediverse is nice too.