I did read the critique of the gothaer program, I’m not going to read an entire book to maybe find an argument that supports you.
My position is that both Kropotkin and Marx didn’t talk or solve the issue I’m talking about, and if you want to prove that wrong, I want you to find a specific quote, page or chapter that does contain that argument. I’m not going to prove your point against me for you.
i am not going to reread it again because the entire or bulk of the book is quite literally his opinions and world building with these subjects in mind. it’s not a source-able concept like in a science journal, because it’s an opinion piece with argumentation. however here are some chapters to consider:
Chapter 3: Anarchist Communism
Chapter 8: Ways and Means
Chapter 10: Agreeable Work
Chapter 12: Objections
The objection is known. “If the existence of each is guaranteed, and if the necessity of earning wages does not compel men to work, nobody will work. Every man will lay the burden of his work on another if he is not forced to do it himself.”
later
“Well-being, that is to say, the satisfaction of physical, artistic, and moral needs, has always been the most powerful stimulant to work. “
have you read it? cause i got an understanding of those concepts from those writings
I did read the critique of the gothaer program, I’m not going to read an entire book to maybe find an argument that supports you.
My position is that both Kropotkin and Marx didn’t talk or solve the issue I’m talking about, and if you want to prove that wrong, I want you to find a specific quote, page or chapter that does contain that argument. I’m not going to prove your point against me for you.
i am not going to reread it again because the entire or bulk of the book is quite literally his opinions and world building with these subjects in mind. it’s not a source-able concept like in a science journal, because it’s an opinion piece with argumentation. however here are some chapters to consider:
Chapter 3: Anarchist Communism
Chapter 8: Ways and Means
Chapter 10: Agreeable Work
Chapter 12: Objections
The objection is known. “If the existence of each is guaranteed, and if the necessity of earning wages does not compel men to work, nobody will work. Every man will lay the burden of his work on another if he is not forced to do it himself.”
later
“Well-being, that is to say, the satisfaction of physical, artistic, and moral needs, has always been the most powerful stimulant to work. “
Right, then they didn’t solve the problem.
Thank you for the discussion though!