I mean I agree people should vote and do more to stop fascism but failing to do so doesn’t make you responsible for other people’s actions.
Yes, it does. If your choices are Hitler and someone you disagree with but who’s not Hitler and you don’t vote, you’re saying that both Hitler and the other person are OK for you. So yeah, you are accepting that getting Hitler as president is fine.
Or maybe you fell for disinformation or maybe you just weren’t paying attention or maybe you thought your vote was more impactful boosting a third Party candidate because your state wasn’t going to be close anyway or maybe you couldn’t get off work that day and they closed the polling station near your house so it would have taken 2 hours by bus and you’d have gotten fired.
Lots of reasons people didn’t do the optimal thing around voting. Some of those are more excusable than others but none make you directly responsible for the things Trump and his followers are doing. They are responsible for their own actions. We are responsible for our own. That’s all.
And again, I personally don’t think we will get out of this solely by voting. People need to stop limiting political action solely to making a largely inconsequential mark on a piece of paper.
Trump is America’s great shame. He has harmed people financially all over the world, and he has presided over a dramatic increase in greenhouse gas emissions.
In the same way todays Australians bear the responsibility for attrocities perpetrated on first nations people before we were born, Americans for generations to come will bear responsibility for Trump.
People really overestimate in how much of the US a person’s vote for president matters. Like 2/3rds of the states aren’t even within reach of a wave election. And the people who could have an impact on the result but stayed home aren’t in a niche politics forum and are really checked out of politics. Like shockingly so. A non-voting acquaintance of mine was going to vote for a conservative nobody because he thought their name sounded cool.
The idea that the 30% non-voters should vote makes sense in a civic ideal sort of way, but they’re not going to show up as secret defenders of liberal democracy. They’re going to be very susceptible to propaganda and those that aren’t are going to vote for Idiocracy-level dumb reasons. Trump’s initial election made big gains from non-voters who are now shocked that he’s doing things he said he’d do.
Yes, it does. If your choices are Hitler and someone you disagree with but who’s not Hitler and you don’t vote, you’re saying that both Hitler and the other person are OK for you. So yeah, you are accepting that getting Hitler as president is fine.
Imagine believing there’s a non-hitler choice in USA. jfc.
The two choices were Hitler. Biden was in the middle of a genocide and then trump came in and continued it.
Or maybe you fell for disinformation or maybe you just weren’t paying attention or maybe you thought your vote was more impactful boosting a third Party candidate because your state wasn’t going to be close anyway or maybe you couldn’t get off work that day and they closed the polling station near your house so it would have taken 2 hours by bus and you’d have gotten fired.
Lots of reasons people didn’t do the optimal thing around voting. Some of those are more excusable than others but none make you directly responsible for the things Trump and his followers are doing. They are responsible for their own actions. We are responsible for our own. That’s all.
And again, I personally don’t think we will get out of this solely by voting. People need to stop limiting political action solely to making a largely inconsequential mark on a piece of paper.
Actually, that’s not really true I’m sorry.
Trump is America’s great shame. He has harmed people financially all over the world, and he has presided over a dramatic increase in greenhouse gas emissions.
In the same way todays Australians bear the responsibility for attrocities perpetrated on first nations people before we were born, Americans for generations to come will bear responsibility for Trump.
People really overestimate in how much of the US a person’s vote for president matters. Like 2/3rds of the states aren’t even within reach of a wave election. And the people who could have an impact on the result but stayed home aren’t in a niche politics forum and are really checked out of politics. Like shockingly so. A non-voting acquaintance of mine was going to vote for a conservative nobody because he thought their name sounded cool.
The idea that the 30% non-voters should vote makes sense in a civic ideal sort of way, but they’re not going to show up as secret defenders of liberal democracy. They’re going to be very susceptible to propaganda and those that aren’t are going to vote for Idiocracy-level dumb reasons. Trump’s initial election made big gains from non-voters who are now shocked that he’s doing things he said he’d do.