• rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works
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    No anti genocide in Gaza would defend Kamala and act like she would save Palestinians similar to no trump defender are opposing genocide in Gaza

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        She also shipped bombs to Israel while they were committing the genocide.

        What action did she actually take against Israel?

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        And Trump said he would end the war of aggression on Ukraine in one day. Same type of bullshit. Show me where she promised that she will stop weapons and aids to Israel to force it to end genocide.

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          Suggesting Kamala is the same as Trump citing one of Trump’s lies is one of the most intellectually dishonest comments I think I’ve ever seen.

          You wanna have a competition? You find statements, tweets, whatever it is, of Kamala telling lies then contradicting herself later. I’ll do the same for Trump. Let’s see who scores higher (lie/contradiction pair = 1 point).

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            I did not suggest anything. Again show me where Kamala said she will cut weapons and aids to israel to force it to end genocide

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              Same type of bullshit.

              You are an intellectually dishonest individual. ‘I’m just asking questions’ energy.

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            “Kamala was going to stop the genocide because Trump is a liar, I need no other proof” is a really strange argument.

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              Reductive reasoning on top of intellectually dishonesty! Lemmy really is filled with terminally online trogs.

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                  Trump has made it so he can send in feds to quell protests. Trump has attacked and reduced our first amendment rights in ways Kamala never would have. Trump has implemented project 2025 policies, Kamala simply would not have. We are the closest we’ve ever been to a dictatorship.

                  Your choice was lesser evil and greater evil, you chose to allow the greater evil to win. I can’t think of anything worse for the Palestinians, but people like you refuse to acknowledge that your grievances were not worth allowing Trump to win. You people are the enemy of the common good.

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                    you chose to allow the greater evil to win

                    I voted in New York, so your attempts to make this personal are especially stupid.

                    Not to mention there isn’t one single state in 2024 where 3rd party voters would have made Kamala win. Not one, even if you include the lolbertarians (who weren’t going to vote for her).

                    your grievances were not worth allowing Trump to win

                    The only people who allowed Trump to win were Democratic leadership. Who pushed a senile codger in in 2020, then in 2024 ran a failed candidate who has never won a single delegate in a primary. And who after that, continued to support the Biden administration’s policy of supporting genocde, despite internal polling showing that could lose the election.

                    Your anger shouldn’t be directed at me and the rest of the left, who had only the mistake of being proved right. Your anger, if you’re actually upset about Trump and the GOP’s agenda, should be with Democratic leadership. Who is continuing despite these failures.

                    This was no surprise to me - I started making plans to leave the US when it became apparent Biden would win the nomination in 2020. Because it was obvious that either in 20 or 24 the GOP would have power, because that’s what the centrist Dems do.

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          It’s a lot harder to prove she wouldn’t have ended Israel’s genocide like she said than prove that Trump would end Russia genocide of Ukraine in one day.

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                She did not mention a single action that would prove that she would have ended it. She actually what involved in the so called cease fire talks blamed Hamas for the failure while it was Israel the obstacle this is a strong fact that make it hard to believe she would end it

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                    A promise is a proof lol for cultist like you. IShe did not promise to end weapons and aids. Israel do only listen to force and real restriction. There is no proof she would end it