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    5 days ago

    I’m going to add

    • “My morality is the only correct morality”
    • “I said lol, because I’m so right it’s laughable”

    to the shortcuts, to save more time.


    Depends on the circumstances but yes, intent is what matters the most, it’s just harder to see than actions. It’s important to double check the info before you go around murdering innocents, lol.

    • “I said lol, because I’m so right it’s laughable”

    Ok, i was wrong here, you didn’t dodge entirely, you acknowledged intent as a thing here and then completely ignored it in your following replies.

    But I assume many of these just wanted the money that came with it and said “fuck morals, fuck relevant information”.

    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”
    • “My morality is the only correct morality”

    Again, ignoring that there are people that believe what they are doing is just and moral.

    The Americans who signed up to kill brown people in the Middle East in the early 00s fall into this category, for example. Would they be exempted? Of course not, they like everyone else had the duty to act right, and they like everyone else knew murder was wrong (in the information era who can claim ignorance when it comes to the guidance of the prophets? Everything is freely available online, you either care or you don’t) and they still went ahead for whatever reason.

    • “My morality is the only correct morality”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”
    • “the baseline moral standard you should all be adhering to should be the same as mine”

    Should’ve double checked! But they weren’t too stupid to get it, just intellectually lazy and overall uncaring, and disregarding that responsibility and then committing atrocities is enough to land you in Hell, especially if you never repent. Will the leaders have a harsher sentence? Definitely.

    • “My morality is the only correct morality”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”
    • “the baseline moral standard you should all be adhering to should be the same as mine”

    Again, you keep on mentioning viewpoints but you still haven’t provided a single one you stand by that I don’t and that directly contradicts the TC (whilst also being morally right, ofc, I doubt you want to pronounce yourself a villain).

    • “My morality is the only correct morality”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”
    • “the baseline moral standard you should all be adhering to should be the same as mine”

    I already told you why, i don’t think there is a interesting conversation about comparative viewpoints to be had with someone who uses “because some things just are” or “because god said so” as actual arguments.

    There’s generally no room for any other viewpoint with such a person, it’d just be wasted breath.

    Or, more succinctly, There’s no good way to discuss reason with someone who isn’t using it.

    You yourself agree with them besides the ones that involve the Creator…

    Unfounded assumptions.

    Especially seeing as you claimed, immediately before this, that i haven’t given any of my own viewpoints.

    And how could I interpret 1 as 0 unless I’m just blind and my opinion should be disregarded?

    • “Feigned Ignorance”
    • “My interpretation is correct”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”

    How could I interpret “don’t kill” as “kill if they’re brown/if they have things you like/if you feel like it”? How can anyone?

    • “My interpretation is correct”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”

    Nobody was aksing you to, all i said was that snot all interpretations match your own.

    Which interpretation of the TC can give you something that goes squarely against the literal meanings of these phrases ?

    There is a whole thread of examples here, find one yourself.

    I really don’t know what you’re saying and I’m not feigning ignorance, I think you just have a fundamental misunderstanding of people and reality.

    • “Feigned Ignorance”
    • “My interpretation is correct”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”

    You believe in gravity (and something in your tummy feels funny when you look from a balcony on the 12th floor), I believe in God, His judgement, the moral duty He has imposed on us and Heaven and Hell as our final destinations (and I also feel something when I transgress,

    • “My interpretation is correct”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”

    I believe in the scientific theory of the effects of what we call gravity, until something else comes up to change that belief.

    Your belief is faith because there is no proof.

    I have no problem with faith, as long as it’s not imposed upon others.

    everyone does at the beginning, then they either learn to pay attention to it or ignore it).

    • “My morality is the only correct morality”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”
    • “the baseline moral standard you should all be adhering to should be the same as mine”

    And just like you wouldn’t jump out of a building unless you lost your mind because you would end up flattened, so would I and everyone on my side not commit great transgressions because we know what will happen.

    • “My interpretation is correct”
    • “My morality is the only correct morality”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”
    • “the baseline moral standard you should all be adhering to should be the same as mine”

    Perhaps you have a moment of insanity, idk, for whatever biological reason something in your brain just malfunctions… well, as soon as you come down from it you’d greatly repent your actions, make amends, seek solutions for this insanity, maybe even get yourself locked up so you don’t do it again!

    • “My morality is the only correct morality”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”
    • “the baseline moral standard you should all be adhering to should be the same as mine”

    But, again, most people don’t just randomly murder or rape when their whole lives they didn’t even punch anyone.

    Agreed.

    But as you’ve repeatedly demonstrated, you refuse to (or simply can’t) acknowledge that there are people who do those things because they think it is right to do so.

    And those who do and claim to believe in something that disagrees with it, like the TC, are simply lying about their beliefs.

    • “Feigned Ignorance”
    • “My interpretation is correct”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”
    • “the baseline moral standard you should all be adhering to should be the same as mine”

    They have and they will continue doing it because some people are just too dumb to realize it and they have no morals so it’s completely win-win for them.

    • “Feigned Ignorance”
    • “My interpretation is correct”
    • "i genuinely in (good or more likely bad) faith don’t understand that viewpoints other than my own can be exist and/or be correct”
    • “the baseline moral standard you should all be adhering to should be the same as mine”

    wow , that really is a timesaver.