You can’t just Doomer yourself out of a bad historically moment.
I agree. I advocate for democratizing the workplace. We already have a successful model for this that literally outperforms traditional capitalist firms. If only we had a system, laws, regulations, etc, that rewarded it.
And capitalism does not encourage competition. Just the opposite. Cartels and monopolies regularly outperform competitive enterprises.
Kind of my point actually. The foundations of capitalism are on shaky grounds. Currently though, internal cooperation inside traditional capitalist firms, only rewards those at the top; those with the capital.
Human nature rewards socializing up to the Dunbar number
I dont see how this is anything other than a bad faith argument. Socialism, broadly, is when workers own the means of production. Not the individual capitalists that exploit their workers for profit. How is this a goal we wouldn’t all want to strive towards? I advocate for worker cooperatives. This is a form of, decentralized, stateless market socialism. Paired with an alternative measure of GDP, like the economy for the common good, for the purpose of tax breaks, subsidies, etc. Nationalize a few key industries, and we have ourselves an economy that benefits more than just a few. Nothing about some “Dunbar number” limits any of this.
That’s part of it, but it’s also been limited by access to capital. Banks have historically denied loans for cooperatives, and investors tend not to want to get involved. We’re also lacking a comprehensive legal framework. In some States, depending on the intended industry, it may not even be possible to register as a cooperative with existing statutes.
I agree. I advocate for democratizing the workplace. We already have a successful model for this that literally outperforms traditional capitalist firms. If only we had a system, laws, regulations, etc, that rewarded it.
Kind of my point actually. The foundations of capitalism are on shaky grounds. Currently though, internal cooperation inside traditional capitalist firms, only rewards those at the top; those with the capital.
I dont see how this is anything other than a bad faith argument. Socialism, broadly, is when workers own the means of production. Not the individual capitalists that exploit their workers for profit. How is this a goal we wouldn’t all want to strive towards? I advocate for worker cooperatives. This is a form of, decentralized, stateless market socialism. Paired with an alternative measure of GDP, like the economy for the common good, for the purpose of tax breaks, subsidies, etc. Nationalize a few key industries, and we have ourselves an economy that benefits more than just a few. Nothing about some “Dunbar number” limits any of this.
The only reason Coops aren’t more prevalent is capitalist propoganda and goverment subsidising of monopolies
That’s part of it, but it’s also been limited by access to capital. Banks have historically denied loans for cooperatives, and investors tend not to want to get involved. We’re also lacking a comprehensive legal framework. In some States, depending on the intended industry, it may not even be possible to register as a cooperative with existing statutes.
So the very legal system is rigged to favor capitalist corporatations.