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Veganism has nothing to do with climate change. Veganism is a moral philosophy on the treatment of non-human animals. The fact that animal abuse contributes to climate change is incidental.
That is your reason for being vegan. There are people that don’t give a single fuck about animals but use the lifestyle to reduce their carbon footprint.
The vegan society in the 40s, originally the vegetarian society, made the term to specifically get around the issue of people conflating being vegetarian for other things. Much easier to say vegan than ovolacto-vegetarian.
Please just use the term plant based if you don’t value ethics.
Well, times change and so does what words mean. Vegetarianism and veganism used to be somewhat radical philosophies, but nowadays, at least to me, they are normalised eating habits. I know all kinds of people who are vegetarian or vegan, with reasons ranging from health concerns to just not liking the taste of meat.
And in any case, I think gatekeeping veganism this way does no good at all.
That’s like saying, “I know people who don’t think women should be able to own property and vote, but they really love and support women, so that makes them feminist.” No, it doesn’t. Feminism and veganism are both moral philosophies. That means something. If you do not hold the respective philosophy, then you are not a vegan or feminist respectively.
Veganism is more than just not eating animals. You don’t know what you are talking about, and you are arguing with people who do. Your arrogance is obscene.
You are the arrogant twat.
You mean not fucking up the planet is not caring about ethics? You can call whatever you are doing plant based. Vegan is the rejection of animal products, if you do that because you are a lunatic or whatever is your thing I guess.
Think for three seconds. Just because one thing has to do with one system of ethics, and a second thing has to do with a second system of ethics, does not mean both things have to do with the same system of ethics as each other!! ETHICAL SYSTEMS ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE.
What is making you this confidently ignorant?
Why don’t you go read the basic article on Wikipedia and then come back with what you learned and tell us why we are wrong. Because right now you’re just making shit up for god knows what reason.
No, that is what veganism IS. I didn’t make it up. And you sure as fuck didn’t make it up.
The people you are describing are not vegan. The term you haven’t learned yet is “plant-based”. The distinction is significant and meaningful. And since you have nothing to do with either, have not done even the most cursory research on the subject, maybe you should STFU and listen.
You can also compost the billionaire if you don’t want to consume them and allow the plants to do that for you.
Ferb, I know what we’re gonna do today.
same thing we do every night pinky
It’s an appeal to futility to say that you shouldn’t do the good you can because you can’t do the good you want to.
A world with no billionaires and no cars that still supports the industrialized slaughter of billions of sentient beings for the sensory pleasure of a privileged minority is still an evil place. That’s billionaire shit, right? Profiting off of the suffering of countless others who are trapped in a system that exploits them?
Sure, the climate needs systemic change and one person can’t stop it, but do you think people who aren’t even willing to change their own lives are gonna change the whole system? Of course not. The first step is finding your courage and changing yourself. Then you work your way outwards and build community and then movements and then you change the system.
Por que no los tres?
Seems a bit naive. The assets in one way or another would most likely just be redistributed to other billionaires.
They’ll get the message eventually
This is a controversial statement.
The existence of billionaires is why i will never check my green house gas emmisions.
Nothing i could ever do would equal the lives of those bastards and what they produce.
Here in Australia lots of people don’t want our government to regulate our mining industry, because China pollutes more
This is moral self-licensing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-licensing
I think that people who can convince themselves their bad behaviour is okay when they are not billionaires are the same people who can convince themselves that their bad behaviour is okay when they are billionaires.
@Deceptichum sadly, the demise of any billionaire frequently creates several more toxic billionaires via inheritance (example: the Waltons).
So you’re telling me it’s a buffet??
buffer overflow from vegan to canabilism interesting
Eating billionaires is vegan because they consented by being billionaires.
