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      That’s a funny way to say: associated herself strongly with the genocide president and said how we were going to have the most lethal military in the world.

      But sure it was the laugh.

      Edit: liberals so insanely scratched below.

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        If it was about genocide, trump wouldn’t have won. She should have been better, no question. However, she was less leaning towards genocide in Gaza than he was. So if that was the decider it was vote her or third party or nobody, yet rump still got 70million odd votes.

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          If it was about genocide, trump wouldn’t have won.

          That makes no sense. Polls confirm Republicans care far less about the genocide than independents and Democrats. You need to appeal to your base to win.

          However, she was less leaning towards genocide in Gaza than he was

          She literally promised no deviation from Biden’s policies regarding Israel. Are you familiar with the story of the man with down syndrome who spoke his first and last words - “Habibi, please stop” - to a Zionazi attack dog who mauled him before they left him to die from his injuries, alone in his home? That’s what Harris promised no deviation from. If you expect people to vote for that, your soul is compromised.

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            If you’ve read the news this past year, no doubt you’ld be aware trump is doing what he said he’d do, and also did his first term. Good job! She wasn’t in charge when she made those statements. Trump IS.

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              Was she in charge of her own mouth when she promised no deviation from Biden’s policy of also letting Israel do whatever they want?

              You’re defending an avowed genocidaire. Evaluate what led you here.

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            Yes, you need to appeal to your base to win. However, if voters are choosing between two candidates with almost identical positions on a topic, that’s not the deciding topic in that election.

            Maybe it should have been, but it wasn’t. If those against genocide really cared about it as their single issuez they would have still voted Harris, who promised nonchangez as opposed to trump who said he’d let Israel do whatever they want.

            It’s a fallacious argument.

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              If those against genocide really cared about it as their single issuez they would have still voted Harris, who promised nonchangez as opposed to trump who said he’d let Israel do whatever they want.

              …Those are the same thing. Biden also let Israel do whatever they want.

              I am against genocide so I do not vote for genocide. A truly mind-boggling approach.

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        So did Trump.

        The choice was: Harris, Trump, or no vote. At this point, not voting was synonymous with paving the road for Trump.

        So, whatever it was that made people choose Trump over Harris, or not voting over Harris, was either a deliberate Trump choice, or a pride issue.

        “No, I refuse to vote against fascism because the other option doesn’t really align with my views on the world”

        Fuck. Off.

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          No, not voting is not voting, and the democrats in power are just polite fascists.

          You will never have me vote in the affirmative for a genocide, and plenty of others agree. Maybe demand the bare fucking minimum from your representatives.

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            Not voting has consequences, too. In this case, the consequence was allowing a fascist piece of shit to get the highest office in your declining country.

            Your problem is, too, pride. Too proud to vote for someone who doesn’t represent you, even if it means you get a fascist regime who will cause, and has caused, so much more pain than the other choice would have.

            Your choice to not vote contributed to that. That is a fact.

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              I voted PSL actually.

              Also you don’t know this is the lesser pain option, a second time line is conveniently imaginary.

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                Also you don’t know this is the lesser pain option, a second time line is conveniently imaginary.

                Oh, please.

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                  I know, right? How am I supposed to take that argument seriously?

                  This is not a situation where being technically logically correct matters. Of course we don’t AHKSHUALLY know. The world is complex and chaotic. Maybe if Harris got elected and started a reasonable administration the butterfly effect would have led to kim jong un launching all his nukes last month.

                  We don’t get to try both ways. Sometimes we have to estimate probabilities and acknowledge that all choices are flawed and come with numerous risks.

                  Just look at the news and be honest with yourself.