• kingofras@lemmy.worldOP
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    19 days ago

    Ok. Last response

    Israel, as the stronger side, has a moral duty to restrain themselves and consider the way their actions affect Palestinian civilians.

    If you only stop there. This has been the case since their formation, and they have never shown any restraint, or understanding for said “moral duty”

    But that doesn’t mean Hamas are excused from any moral consideration, and at the very least have a duty not to target civilians specifically.

    And this is why you are a zionist apologist. You are the parent that tells their kids “if you get beaten up at school, jesus teaches us to show the other cheek”. I’m the parent that says, if you don’t stand up to a bully, nobody else will do it for you, and once they’re finished bullying you, they will keep bullying others.

    And they should be scared shitless about Iran attacking them. Wouldn’t you? After they assassinated your religious leader and an entire school full of girls. And that happened in the first 2 days of the war. And now they are doing the same in Lebanon. Over 300 dead to get a few “terrorists”.

    And that’s what they do during wartime. In “peacetime” they go underground and set up elaborate lobby groups like AIPAC and use agents like Epstein to play the long game, so when they do radical genocide like this, the media and the biggest military police force are all in their pocket. All because they believe some vague ancient scribbles and think they own humanity.

    Anyway, you’re in the wrong place if you think you’re going to change anybody’s mind here.

    • CerealKiller01@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      This has been the case since their formation, and they have never shown any restraint, or understanding for said “moral duty”

      You’re using too broad a brush IMO.

      I’m the parent that says, if you don’t stand up to a bully, nobody else will do it for you, and once they’re finished bullying you, they will keep bullying others.

      From where I’m standing, you’re the parent that says that if the bully is bigger, you should just bring a shiv to school and stab him.

      And they should be scared shitless about Iran attacking them. Wouldn’t you?

      Of course I would. And Israel is scared shitless of Hamas and Hezbollah launching rockets at cities, invading and mass murdering citizens. But still that doesn’t mean everything it did is justified.

      And that’s what they do during wartime. In “peacetime” they go underground and set up elaborate lobby groups like AIPAC and use agents like Epstein to play the long game, so when they do radical genocide like this, the media and the biggest military police force are all in their pocket.

      Here’s the thing, I could write “Wow, the Jews Zionist sure do control the media and politics!”, but then you’ll say “ha ha, what a Zionist apologist, you really have one argument”. If it helps, I don’t think that’s specifically anti-Jewish sentiment, it’s just a sub-set of “there’s some group that we don’t like that has un-proportional power and use it to do bad things”.