• TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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    7 days ago

    To quote from the last time someone posted something like this

    The most annoying thing ‘socialists’ have done is creating their own lexicon and different meanings of English words so they can be oh so superior to the ‘normal folks’ without actually changing anything. The point of language is communication, to be clear. If your terms are confusing people, that’s your problem, not people’s problem

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      And to quote my reply from last time someone posted such nonsense:

      Maybe the problem is you, as these are understood terms.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_property

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property (do not the “Not to be confused with Personal property.” at the top of this page)

      These words have well defined meanings that have been around for 193 years for the case of personal property. Simply because you are ignorant of the definition of a word, is not a criticism against the left.

      Likewise I have learnt from last time and added a super simple understanding in the post title so your criticisms are even further invalidated.

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        7 days ago

        If you have to define the meanings of your words in the post, then evidently people don’t already understand them how you use them. However they would understand it if you used the terms personal/private property and business/company property.

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          One could argue that not being aware of standard economic terminology or the nuances of the concepts behind it contributes to being unable to discuss economic theory well.

          Of course there’s a shitload of things a person should really know but realistically can’t all at the same time; economic theory isn’t special in that regard.

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            7 days ago

            and this is the case in literally every field. to start discussing anything seriously, there needs to be well-defined terminology and that terminology will often re-use existing words while also deviating from how laypeople may use or understand them.

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          Everyone has to learn the meaning of a word sometime.

          And when it’s the state that owns the property and not a business? Your suggested terms don’t work as well as you think they do.

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        Those are bad definitions that dont carry to modern times when i hire people to pick up my factory and move it wherever i want.

        The distinction between ‘movable’ and ‘immovabe’ is not so clear. The only truly immovable piece is the land/dirt/rocks on your deed. And even then much of that is also still movable at some degree.

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    7 days ago

    Socialism in real life: Stand in line for four hours because toothbrushes are available for the first time in months.

    The attempts at abandoning private property have affected the availability of goods for personal property severely.

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      7 days ago

      What you’ve got there is state capitalism. Soviets gave up on socialism basically right after the first election

    • Deceptichum@quokk.auOPM
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      Capitalism in real life: Die in the street because you didn’t have enough StateFunBucks to afford a place to live or a meal to eat.