Just to clarify, I don’t think it’s a problem that hatred is minimal here, and I don’t just mean politics.
I feel like I very rarely see alternative opinions about anything, whether it be software, ai, news about companies, etc. it just seems like everyone universally agrees about anything with only a tiny handful of exceptions.
It makes me hesitant to believe I’m on the “correct side” and I never see any arguments from opposition. This makes me worried that I’m in some sort of echo chamber. In real life, I do see much more diverse opinions and, if I only used the fediverse for social media, would likely be weaker in defending my own since their arguments would be “new” to me.
I understand the reasons for which the fediverse has pretty collective opinion, but it does still worry me. I want to be able to see all the other people with their own thoughts (given it’s respectful) on the Internet, which should be the most capable tool to do so.
It doesn’t help that one of the main instances will outright delete comments for being pro capitalism and the users of said instance will downvote any comment that doesn’t get removed but isn’t anti capitalist enough.
But the so called tankie triad is reviled enough that I would say it is actually proof of diversity of thought. There are conservative communities and instances but for the most part they don’t get much engagement because the content is usually pretty low quality even if it gets seen at all as many people will block or instances will defederate from those types of hosts.
I would consider myself more right wing than most users on the fediverse but even I don’t have much desire to engage with MAGA/fascist right wing content.
I don’t “worry” about it. I accept that it is. It’s just the nature of humans and social groups. Can’t do much about it. What you can do is increase your number of sources to gain the other perspectives.
I live in south currently and it feels like IRL is the echo chamber.
I genuinely did not know there are americans actually opposed to Israel until I came to lemmy. And I especially did not know it was a big group.
When the mango came to KY the whole crowd stayed quiet even during times when people usually cheer (usually his middle school nicknames). The only time they cheered was when he said the words “epic fury” 🤦♂️
Then a man threw a beer can at him and called him a Pedo
Do you not watch the news IRL? Pro-Palestinian protests have been in the headlines practically since the Hamas terrorist attacks on 10/7/23. I’m not sure how you’ve missed them.
Yeah it absolutely would benefit from a wider range of opinions. That’s why a large portion of my comments are “against the grain”, I don’t see the value of reinforcing prevailing opinions in an echo chamber. I hope that as Lemmy grows we will see more diverse opinions, but what I think is more likely is that the hard-core leftist part of Lemmy will sort of secede and defederate so they can preserve their echo chamber while the rest of lemmy gets taken over by “normies”
You are not a normie, you are the problem.
Don’t bother, humans don’t deserve any intervention.
You reap what you sew.
It’s “sow”; reaping is harvesting grain, sowing is planting it
Username checks out.
Great point, I agree with you!
Exactly! That’s what I was thinking!
I also think what you are thinking.
No. I’m perfectly secure in my absolute hatred and rejection of bigotry and violence.
But, to be fair and balanced, have you considered the many pros of bigotry?
It’s important for the discourse that you respect my position, no matter how dogshit it is or how poorly I defend it.
/s
One reason you’re noticing a homogeneity of opinions on here is the fact that Lemmy isn’t botted like larger social networks. Larger networks have bots farms pushing all sorts of narratives for various reasons, and the one thing they accel at is finding people to argue with.
You are also certainly in a bubble on Lemmy. You have to know it exists and care enough to use it over other platforms. Most people choose the path of least resistance.
its botted plenty. i was just in a china circkejerk thread where there was immediate defense of china and massive attavk of anything that didnt promote china
The China vs US one ?
Brigades are out in full force in those trenches
yes. it was bad. no platform is immune
This has uh, not been my experience.
I don’t know what your talking about. I’m very active on Lemmy, precisely because there is a lot of actual debate.
What I don’t get, that Reddit had a LOT of, is trolls, bots, novelty accounts, puns, and especially Russian Propaganda Farmers who are just showing up to argue for the sake of arguing.
I also don’t get a lot of MAGA trolls. Debate is one thing, but anybody who is still sticking by MAGA at this point is a truly sick person, and I’d rather not have to engage with psychopaths, thank you. I don’t have anything good or polite to say to them, and they can’t be moved by logic or morality, so what’s the point? They just want to cause problems, because they think that’s entertaining.
No. I see idiots arguing about the tiniest possible things on here. Actually no clue what you are on about.
But you will also notice how downvoted most of those things get. Especially if it is a minority opinion. So most people won’t see those unless they catch them before the downvotes. I tend to open the downvoted threads to see whats there, but a lot of people don’t.
This isn’t a fucking poll. It’s a website with a bunch of jackasses on it. You want better sampling start poking for your opinions instead of shitting them out on whatever social media site.
Actually, I sometimes get lots of downvotes in things I think I see pretty clearly. So I understand what you mean but still I see some controversy.
This makes me worried that I’m in some sort of echo chamber
You are. Just consider how small the amount of people knowing about lemmy is, now take the ones who are interested in it (over using something like reddit) and now pick the ones who are technically capable to register an account. Those are us, those who have gone through this selection process.
It’s not that hard to make an account, is it?
Remember that most boomers and zoomers don’t know anything about tech
I’ve never figured it out
Yes, these are very valid concerns. Maybe start first with some controversial opinion?
Prolly not a good idea. I’ve heard mods here are supposed to be as badly power tripping as on Reddit.
Power tripping on what little bit of power they might hold is a human thing. Not that it isn’t despicable, it’s just been around longer than the internet has existed, longer than society has existed even, I’d wager. It just used to involve physical power but now it involves social power or just bits on a server that say their account can control what other accounts do.
The only advantage of Lemmy is that you can get away from an admin abusing their power without leaving the platform entirely, so mods and admins teaming up doesn’t mean you can be silenced entirely on the platform like you can on the centralized ones like reddit or twitter.
