Right, why does the guy look in a way that is reminiscent of internet representations of pedophiles and rapists?

Okay, I must misunderstand the joke. Why is Frodo scared?

It’s literally a rape joke.

I’m so tired of libs on this site dude. Go read Rob Paxton’s The Anatomy of Fascism, it is ahistorical to suggest that the thing you’re calling definitive of “left” (whatever the fuck that means to you people at this point) is enough to determine of someone is “left.”

Or are you arguing that Elon Musk is correct about National Socialism?

What exactly do you think socialism is?

No…it wouldn’t.

Sexual violence. Funny.

Y’know, it’d be really funny if Utah of all places went 2 - 0 with these fascist losers.

I mean, not my home.

Yes, almost like that’s why there’s a bubble despite the obvious disparity between both states’ ability to maintain an adequate infrastructure for this technology. US companies are looting with the full expectation that the cost of the economic fallout will be shifted to taxpayers. They’re getting as much value out of this before China inevitably becomes dominant even in the US sphere of influence as the US simply will never be able to compete after decades of neoliberal politics and the erosion of public works.

I’m not sure how you don’t think that all translates into labour value. These are expenses and the fake narrative that this technology is even capable of labour is itself oriented around making human labour less valuable. It’s always been about reaping even more from the only resource they have difficulty owning completely.

Pretty sure the point was to drive down the price of labour?

Lmao, you typed this still, why are you trying to talk to me?

Oh, I just realized you are referring to my calling liberals fascists and not when I call “socialists” liberals. Oh boy, wait 'till you learn about liberalism.

See, this is how you stop someone from talkin to you dummy: blocked.

Some were people who grew up in former Soviet states where simplified versions of socialist writing in the nineteenth and early-twentieth centuries were taught and they focused more heavily on the political structure of the communist state rather than the relationality and philosophical underpinnings of Marxism and socialism; structuralist and postmodern ideas didn’t even seem to factor in.

It’s true though, there has been a very intentional effort among liberals to appropriate socialist and communist ideas into their rhetoric as they have feminist, queer, and African American theory under neoliberalism. I’ve had classes where I have to explain what “liberal” means because it’s pretty much assumed it’s going to be heard the same as “progressive,” which has also been deprived of meaning but over a much longer period of time. Euros are the same though, and on Lemmy especially since it’s a bit more distributed among American and European users for a bunch of reasons. You see it on other platforms, but on here there’s so many Europeans who straight up think they’re altruistic socialists but presume everyone else agrees that colonialism is over and Europe is reformed (corporations and international law is what isn’t colonialism apparently btw, lol)

Liberalism is exceptional at appropriation because it has emerged over centuries of EuroAmerican imperialism and settler-colonialism, its main purpose is to steal.

For the joke, yes. But, also because I’m curious if you have a real critique besides “stinky and mean to me,” as I genuinely don’t have experience with that community, but have ran into a lot of uncritical “socialists” on fediverse stuff in general.

Another funny thing here is you’ve done a lot of stuff that I don’t think you realize is telling of liberal thought, the infantalization is another big one, but you’ve hit almost everything. If your next comment is something about trans women, think we got a full row.

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I don’t think it’s helpful to construct liberals as ignorant in the same way a child is. It is an uncritical and harmful way to think, but children can’t understand what genocide is because they haven’t lived long enough and do not know enough about the world, adults differ in that it is a choice to remain ignorant or to not change in response to knowledge.

There’s a special kind of malice that comes from truly knowing you’re wrong but do not care to learn better; not because they can’t, but because it is inconvenient.

Are you a liberal?

What you just described is in fact how liberalism has responded to the popularity of its challengers; it’s how it colonizes. Liberal historical narratives subscribe to progressivism, the idea that society is inevitably on a path toward equality, the end of scarcity, any “good” that is necessary to justify its existence. They disarmed African American Liberationist movements by adopting the Civil Rights Act and situating the deterimination and condemnation of racism within the legal framework of a fundamentally racist system, which turned out predictably. Jasbir Puar coined the term “homonationalism” to describe the specific kind of pro-imperialist queerness that emerged following the legal acceptance of queer property and marriage rights in a period of US military expansion into Iraq and Afghanistan. The AIDS genocide and subsequent necessity of establishing property rights for widowed spouses functioned similarly to disarm gender and marriage abolition movements within queer critiques of liberalism, which established a privileged class of queer people who promptly betrayed the rest of us for material comfort.

This isn’t to say there was no value in these concessions – obviously, we have to use whatever tool we have at our disposal including the incidental cooperation of the liberal state – but that the consequences of these developments teaches us that this is an existential conflict. There is no world where a liberal state exists without genocidal violence and the longer it exists, the more violence it will execute.