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lumpenproletariat@quokk.auM to Memes of Production@quokk.auEnglish · 1 month ago

there is no future, the present is now

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there is no future, the present is now

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lumpenproletariat@quokk.auM to Memes of Production@quokk.auEnglish · 1 month ago
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      I think its supposed to be a specific criticism directed towards more auth lefties like MLMs who want to create a dictatorship of the proletariat to transition to a dissolved state communist society. So the comic is saying don’t hold out to build the vanguard party, destroy the parts of society that are hurting us and do the best you can to improve the current state of the world.

      I’m not 100% on board with the message, but if that’s what it is saying it could be worse.

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        so just do a ship of theseus with society

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          We don’t have much of a choice, history marches regardless so we gotta do this:

          https://youtu.be/rb3F1CMQRK4

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          before creation must come destruction. And if you think destruction of kindness and empathy; replacing it with oppression and violence, is not happening constantly then I don’t know what to tell you.

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              Its not brave or moral to let a machine designed to harm people continue operating, even if it requires violence to stop it. It is not more ‘mature’ to let millions get crushed under the boot heel to avoid discomfort for others. We have to build better while we destroy the systems that are hurting us, but those systems need to be destroyed.

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                  Sure thing. Let you get back to the real work of having your face caved in by ICE because fighting back makes you as bad as them, or waiting patiently for them to finish ethnic cleansing while you vote your way to a better world.

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              I think many people choose to use violence to bad ends, like the garnering of profit, the division of people into an under- and overclass or the enforcement of the status quo. However, this does not mean that I condemn their violence for being violence, I believe violence is necessary for change. Look at, for example, at the civil rights movement. If violence is used to the right end, it can be good.

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              to live is to be violent, grow up

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              you have said so many words that to unpack them all one would have to write an extensive essay.

              but i know you wouldnt read it anyway, youd rather think you are morally superior being “anti-violence.” (probably while being coddled in your imperial-core state)

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