• fodor@lemmy.zip
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    4 days ago

    We needed a report to tell us that? Well, maybe the DNC did. Everyone else kinda always thought supporting genocide was a shit idea and a bad way to win an election.

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      4 days ago

      It’s a hard pill to swallow that people who claim to care about war would choose more war over less war. It’s basically a report that says “6 million people couldn’t pass a third grade level competency test with months of prep time”.

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        2 days ago

        The morons running the democratic party thought it was more important to support a genocide than to gain votes. Somehow you think those same morons would protect us from fascism or make anything better.

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          That statement exists as a result of fierce misinformation campaigns by supporters of the Trump administration including Netanyahu and other Zionists.

          The DNC have never, will never, support Genocide. Genocide is the eradication of a demographic of people, which is the explicit stance of the Trump administration alone. Joe Biden’s administration pushed for ceasefire, threatened Netanyahu constantly with loss of support, built aid distribution networks to feed Palestinians.

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            Biden didn’t push for a ceasefire at all. He continuously shipped weapons to israel and even bypassed congress to ship weapons to them. He temporarily paused a single shipment of 2,000 pound bombs, said he was “frustrated” with netanyahu while still doing everything he wanted, and he had a floating pier built that let limited amounts of aid through instead of telling israel to let aid through on-ground. This was apparently enough to fool people like you into thinking biden was serious about helping the Palestinians. If he was serious about stopping the genocide, he could’ve simply stopped all shipments of weapons to israel (you know, the ones carrying out the genocide). This is so basic and obvious that I’m surprised you try to argue otherwise.

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              Amount of aid increased after the pier was built. All Aid cut off completely for months when Trump entered office.

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                The amount of aid technically increased but was not nearly enough and would’ve been much more easily and quickly satisfied by simply telling israel to let aid through on-ground instead of this ridiculous workaround.

                This is the strategy that democrats always use to justify carrying out heinous acts, just like how biden was instrumental in creating the student loan crisis and then decades later forgiving a tiny fraction of that debt so that supporters can point to that and proudly proclaim “see, he’s doing something!”

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            Biden didn’t even acknowdge the genocide. We suppose to thanks Biden for some food when he is fine with billions of dollars in military aid to murder infants?

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        “Less war” like what we saw happening in Gaza between October '23 and January '25? You make this claim as if we can’t examine the very recent past when her predecessor and former running mate was in charge and should instead rely on feelings and faith to convince ourselves that the thing we watched happen under a Democratic leadership for 15 months would never happen under a Democratic leadership.

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          Yes, less war like when Biden refused to hand over weapons payed for by Israel which Trump later bragged about delivering. Less war like the official stance being negotiating ceasefire, putting forward UN Ceasefire Resolutions which rely on release of hostages, as opposed to Pete Hegseth Secretary of War saying Death or Exodus for every Palestinian. Less war like building an aid flotilla and distributing food, as opposed to all aid trucks being paused for months at the start of the Trump admin.

          Biden was incompetent about dealing with despots like Netanyahu, but Trump wants to kill every Palestinian.

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            This is full of half truths and outright falsification. Biden delayed a single shipment of weapons. “Official stances” mean nothing as the slaughter continued unabated. The aid flotilla cost $200 million to build and only delivered a few trucks worth of food before falling apart.

            Do you really have that big of a hard-on for Biden and Harris that you’d help whitewash their participation in all this? Can you explain exactly what it is you get out of doing that?

            Imagine if you used all that energy to help rid the party of these god awful human beings that wouldn’t think twice about doing the same thing to you if it helped their chances at get just a little bit more power. Instead you use that energy to craft a false reality in order to protect two proven losers and their ilk.

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              Even if you believed that both sides were equal on the topic of Gaza, against all evidence, then you would still be an idiot to allow the Trump admin back for every other issue in which the parties differ.

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            3 days ago

            Biden was like please do not use those 2000lb bomb just use more smaller bombs to do the same level of destruction