This could be huge for vehicle design as a whole.

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    10 days ago

    I think it’s irresponsible of the Verge to tout an electric motorcycle’s range as “up to 600km”. It’s absolute fantasy.

    I have an electric dirtbike and a gas bike. My gas bike has an 11.1 L tank and can go about 360km per tank.

    The highest actual range I’ve seen on an electric motorcycle is about 100km of mixed use (highway and city).

    Solid state batteries have the potential capability of having almost double the power density as lithium ion. So approx 200-300km (maybe).

    Pretty solid but doubling THAT is just dishonest and in no way going to happen. You’re claiming to have more power density than internal combustion. That’s just straight up dishonest.

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          10 days ago

          The 20kWh is the low end battery which they rate at 350km of range. The high end battery is 33kWh

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            10 days ago

            Yes, assuming a linear scaling, 33kWh would get you 506km with some percentage available.

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              10 days ago

              They did still have 7% left though. So more like 540km… And it’s actually 33.3 so we get another 1% which brings us to 545… with almost no degradation over time or from running from 100% to 0% or in hot or cold weather. So I’d still say pretty darn good.

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                10 days ago

                Adding the extra weight of the battery will reduce the range but more importantly going 12mph is not a way of rating a street legal vehicle… it’s like bragging about a laptop having a 30 day battery life when it’s in standby. Drag is a function of velocity squared which means that going at even 45mph you are experiencing 14x the drag and at 60mph it’s 25x the drag

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                  10 days ago

                  The batteries are actually lighter than the Lithium batteries in there previously. But yeah, we can put them in the same category with most EV makers when it comes to overstating range.

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                    9 days ago

                    They are claiming a weight of 400Wh/kg so the extra weight should be at least another 70lbs if it didn’t require any extra bracing which it probably does that while it may not be a lot for a 3000lb car it is sizeable for a 400lb bike

                    it’s a lot worse than other EV makers misleading claims, because 12mph is literally a joke of a speed to test at considering that’s slower than a cyclist on a non motorized bike and it is not even considering a fast speed to run at.

                    A still misleading but at least defendable claim would be if they did one at 25mph and called that their city range but 12mph is just an insulting claim