cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/36712639

Ubisoft’s first North American union, located at their Halifax, Nova Scotia studio, was certified on December 18th, 2025. Now, not even a full 30 days later, Ubisoft Halifax is closing.

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    2 months ago

    Capital would rather burn everything down than lose a penny to the working class. Yes in this example, highly paid developers are considered working class relative to billionaire owners

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      2 months ago

      I like to think that we’re all working class, and that to subdivide classes further benefits only the capital

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        2 months ago

        Yes in reality, like 90% of people are working class, but I just wanted to make that designation for anyone reading it and going “software engineers aren’t working class”. I mean it in the more general working class vs capital owners.

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          Anyone who cannot stop working and live off their own wealth (and not rely on the working income of others) for the rest of their lives is, by definition, working class.

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        2 months ago

        please be nice to the rich ‘working class’ They’re ‘just like you’!

        They don’t live week by week, they have thousands to tens of thousands of dollars of disposable income per month.

        No, I’m not going to treat them the same as my fellow lower classes.

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          That’s a mistake. If you treat them as your equal then you can make then see they aren’t special or “middle class” and then you have another pair of hands to help the working class.

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      Everybody who has to work for a living is part of the working class. Further division is just “divide et impera” by the owners.

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        2 months ago

        Really? I always assumed they made more than developers in the “enterprise” world.

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          Noooo, not even close. There may be some senior devs in AAA studios making bank, but the vast majority of people doing the day-to-day art and development work on games typically get much worse pay and benefits than similar roles in other parts of the tech sphere.

          A lot of people are very passionate about making games, and the games industry heavily exploits that passion to short change its workers. A lot of (mostly young) devs are willing to accept less pay to work on games because they feel like it will be more fulfilling than working on other mindless corporate crap, and those who do get jobs in the industry are afraid to ask for more money or try to unionize because they know there are a dozen equally passionate candidates waiting to replace them for less money if they make too many waves.

          The result is that wages stay lower than other tech jobs and hours worked are much higher. With AI on the rise the problem will no doubt get even worse as execs use it as an excuse to shrink teams and “do more with less”.

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      Devs are working class

      Because they actually work on products literally, they’re the base of their profession with pretty much nobody under them bar a few juniors if any

      I fear the day when being a dev like me becomes so normal I make minimum wage and can’t afford anything anymore… It’s seriously terrifying to realize I worked and learned all this time and it may be for nothing in like 10 years…

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        lol that day is coming sooner than you’d think, I think 10 years is being generous tbh

        You should learn a highly niche specialization within SWE if you don’t already have one (that’s what I have). That will be overtaken by AI too, but it’ll give you more runway at least.

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            If I were in your shoes (and I am), I would start trying to blindly use AI to do various aspects of my job (and I have).

            The results are laughable.

            There are things that I do that AI can do. Stupid, boring, uninteresting things. In particular, AI excels at doing things I already wrote a simple Bash script to do for me a decade ago.

            Seriously, I encourage everyone to give it a try.

            Let’s all build that passion project we’ve been dreaming of and host it for the world to enjoy.

            In the best case, the world has a happy little passion project chugging away being useful.

            In the worst case, we learn what AI cannot do yet, and realize we can still keep charging people for our labor for a few more years (and decades and centuries).

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              To repurpose The Fermi Paradox, if AI allows anyone to easily make a useful product, then where are they all?

              Is that The AI Fermi Paradox?

              E: obviously this is the FermAI Paradox.