• TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
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    13 days ago

    In a sane country, centrism means you still support universal healthcare. Obviously not in the US and overtime less and less in other countries.

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      13 days ago

      Centrism is a myth, it’s right wing for people too afraid to call themselves as such. You can’t sit in the middle of capitalism. You are either for or against it.

      Let’s look at French centrism, the proposed 2026 budget included funding cuts for healthcare. It was only after protest and having to negotiate with left parties that they saw an increase. If left to their own devices, centrists would eventually and slowly kill of healthcare through a million tiny cuts. Centrists don’t support it, it’s just bad optics for them to be visibly against it.

      • curbstickle@anarchist.nexus
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        12 days ago

        Hey now, I’m a centrist!

        I’m just the center of the left. You know, where respect for humanity exists.

        (i couldn’t resist, sorry)

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        Centrism is a myth, it’s right wing for people too afraid to call themselves as such.

        That’s self-identified “Centrists” in the US who inhabit somewhere in the middle of the Overton window. Centrism in less relative terms is generally Liberals and they range from Center Left to Center Right.

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        But left and right isn’t just capitalism vs not capitalism… There’s a lot of other factors. But, there’s also things like social capitalism and social democracy that keep most of capitalism, while including checks and balances to reduce the destruction of society. I’d expect most centrists to want something like that, even if they don’t appreciate/understand the name.

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      13 days ago

      And this is why the right will always win. You can never be left enough to not get into arguments with “real” leftists.

      • Deceptichum@quokk.auOPM
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        No, it’s that you’re not left if you’re arguing for keeping capitalism. It’s a very low bar to pass.

        Leftists disagree with each other on basically every other aspect of how society should run, but not this one.

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        The bar that almost every Leftist expects you to pass is “exploiting people is wrong” which is an easy fucking purity test if you’re not a sociopath.