Exactly, as long as people keep hurting others you need someone to deal with that.
A lot of things we use police or sheriffs for can be transferred to entities that aren’t allowed to arrest or brutalize people. Evictions shouldn’t be served by a man with a gun. A speeding ticket shouldn’t either.
But when someone is committing an armed robbery or attacking another person we need someone to respond with force, but they need to be actually trained in de-escalation.
This would likely need to be paired with massive programs designed to improve society and reduce crimes.
America is a land of guns and violence and that probably can’t change. police and conservative society understand things stereotypically because it’s also sometimes true
Serving an eviction notice can get you shot when random people own guns and crime is normal
A car speeding could be armed dudes with drugs or something and they’ll kill you in the middle of an empty highway in Colorado or wherever
Dangerous violent assholes with guns have mental health episodes too 🤷♀️
I hear you, but if people know that someone giving them a speeding ticket will not be arresting or shooting them wouldn’t it serve them better to not pull guns and lead to anything more? Criminals today attack officers during a traffic stop because the officers are trained to fish for an arrest.
Abolish the police and replace them with this other thing that’s totally not just a better version of the police
A better version of the police would still be better.
Right. But the OOP is quite clear that replacing them with something better is not enough.
They’re letting perfect be the enemy of good. Which is a shame, because then nothing changes :-(
Yes, which is one reason so many of us are disagreeing with OOP.
So you’re the person the meme is referring to. Brave of you to admit it
It’s very easy to imagine a perfect society without police. Unfortunately we don’t live in imagination land
Exactly, as long as people keep hurting others you need someone to deal with that.
A lot of things we use police or sheriffs for can be transferred to entities that aren’t allowed to arrest or brutalize people. Evictions shouldn’t be served by a man with a gun. A speeding ticket shouldn’t either.
But when someone is committing an armed robbery or attacking another person we need someone to respond with force, but they need to be actually trained in de-escalation.
This would likely need to be paired with massive programs designed to improve society and reduce crimes.
America is a land of guns and violence and that probably can’t change. police and conservative society understand things stereotypically because it’s also sometimes true
Serving an eviction notice can get you shot when random people own guns and crime is normal
A car speeding could be armed dudes with drugs or something and they’ll kill you in the middle of an empty highway in Colorado or wherever
Dangerous violent assholes with guns have mental health episodes too 🤷♀️
I hear you, but if people know that someone giving them a speeding ticket will not be arresting or shooting them wouldn’t it serve them better to not pull guns and lead to anything more? Criminals today attack officers during a traffic stop because the officers are trained to fish for an arrest.
That’s not the sole reason criminals attack officers and there’s no reason to think you’d be safe
Why would it serve them better? They can just shoot you and drive away and it’s hundreds of miles to the nearer station