• tidderuuf@lemmy.world
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      The judge is Aileen Cannon. You know the judge that openly obstructed and has admitted bias towards helping Trump. When Smith testified to Congress he even talked about how she was a key player in delaying every part of the process of charging Trump.

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      That’s not how a society built on laws work, and the judge would be abdicating his duty if he let him off light.

      Besides, he is MAGA, and I suspect that whole situation was set up as a PR boost for Trump. He’s the fall guy anyway.

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        Laws aren’t black and white, they’re always open to interpretation and discretion. It’s why jury’s exist, it’s why lawyers exist, it’s why the courts exist, it’s why the police exist.

        If allowances aren’t made, it’s not a lawful society.

        You’re wanting to go back to Monarchy/dictatorship, which is where one person rules and makes the decisions.

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          The law’s pretty clear in this case.

          What you’re saying is really that breaking the law was justified, something that the legal system has no concept of and never can.

          This has nothing to do with dictatorship; all democracies are built on the rule of law, which means the if you break the law (and are caught) you suffer the punishment.

          It’s actually the opposite: Discretionary exceptions to the law are a hallmark of authoritarian societies where those with power let their friends off the hook, but punish their enemies harshly. Maybe you can think of some examples in recent times in the US.

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            The law’s pretty clear in this case.

            Who made the laws mate? Lmfao.

            Do you notice how in dictatorships they actually just ignore the laws instead?

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              Who made the laws mate?

              The answer to that is not relevant to the question of whether laws are “black and white”.

              Do you notice how in dictatorships they actually just ignore the laws instead?

              They ignore some laws, some of the time.

              The principle of the Rule of Law is that all people are subject to the same law, and that law is available so that everyone can know what it is.

              Quick history lesson: in Tudor and Stuart England, the King could prosecute anyone he liked for anything he liked in the so-called Star Chamber; it did not have to hand down judgements based on any written law and instead it could decide any case before it based on its own ideas of morality. Successive Kings used this to punish those opposed to them and their policies. The Star Chamber was abolished during the English Civil War by parliament (opposed to the King) because of its excesses, and along with its abolition came a growing understanding that became the principle of the rule of law.

              When you allow courts to rule otherwise than in accordance with the law, you allow them to pick whom they punish and whom they do not punish. This is the case with all exceptions to Rule of Law - such as presidential pardons. They were designed to permit mercy, but Trump used them to pardon his supporters.

              When you ask to suspend Rule of Law and permit leniency - permit deviation from the law - you’re asking to allow whomever has influence over the use of that deviance to exert their own personal will on the judicial process. The powerful having influence over justice is a hallmark of authoritarianism, which is what you’re asking for.

              What you want is for people who commit crimes that you think have mitigating circumstances to be let off. Making you the authority in your authoritarian fantasy.