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  • I like that matter provisioning requires verification of their certificate, but I don’t like that certificates can expire or the certificate authority can shut down. Although maybe that’s all taken care of by the DCL? In which case that’d be fine.

    It’s also pretty obnoxious that it requires an Android phone with Google play services enabled (and even a Google login IIRC) or an iOS phone. There are ways around this, but they are pretty complex and not well documented.




  • If any ai Ia involved they will dismiss not only it but you and it’s a really irritating habit that is starting to emerge.

    It’s perfectly understandable. It used to be that a project that had the appearance of a significant amount of work and polish put into it could be reasonably trusted. With the rise of LLMs, that assumption has gone completely out the window as people can churn out appealing looking slop in record time. In addition, LLMs are dominated by the most transparently evil tech companies in existence, and the fully open models aren’t yet good enough, and are still built on the backs of the absurd amount of energy usage used to train the models.

    That all being said, I don’t think the OP is being malicious and I appreciate the disclosure but I’d give this project a year of maintenance before I would reasonably trust it.





  • The main benefit of Matter is that it is split into two layers (Matter and Thread) where as Zigbee is essentially one layer that handles everything. This makes Matter more flexible, since it can work over both Wifi and Thread (and any future protocol at the same layer). At the moment there isn’t a huge advantage, but in the future if the standard succeeds, you would hopefully be able to buy most smart devices and use just one protocol (Matter) to control and integrate them.

    At the moment, the main advantage I can see is that more wifi smart devices can be locally controlled because they have Matter support (which requires it). Which historically, was limited to HomeKit over WiFi, ESPHome/Tasmota flashed devices, and sometimes through Home Assistant integrations that found a way to locally control devices for a given company.

    Because I didn’t really explain Thread, I’ll just quickly say that it’s a protocol much like WiFi and the “closer to the hardware” part of ZigBee. I’d prefer buying Matter over Thread vs Matter over WiFi devices, particularly if you’re planning to build out a Thread mesh network (the Matter over wifi devices won’t help in that).