I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic

Haha, you should try using the median income to adjust for outlier skewing. Also while it is true that constant capital becomes variable capital if you follow the production chain you should keep in mind that much of this production is done in the imperial periphery (and therefore not necessarily reflected in GDP per capita). Their exploitation is directly responsible for the purchasing power of our wages, in a way an hour of our labor purchases many many hours of theirs. If you are going to eliminate constant capital through the means suggested in your process, then you need to include the wages of workers of the periphery (often below the value of their labor power) in your average.

Okay so I was gonna respond sooner but I was super baked and unable to answer this when I saw it last night.

You should read Wage Labour and Capital by Marx for some added context, it is short.

Basically the value of a commodity is calculate by c + v + s. c being constant capital (the value of the means of production that has been degraded to create the commodity, hard to calculate without good info), v is the amount of paid labor (variable capital), and s being surplus value is the unpaid labor.

To calculate the value of your labor all you need to know is the constant capital used to produce whatever commodity you produce and the value of said commodity. By including your wage as v you can calculate the surplus value and then compare them to see what share of the value you produce you actually recieve.

It gets harder when you aren’t directly producing commodities which my friend was.

He had a decent job for our area

Sheesh, if that doesn’t radicalize someone idk what does. Granted in your case a lot of that value comes from the constant capital of the plant itself but still, it is likely you make less than 6% yeah. My friends was easy to calculate because constant capital was relatively negligable.

Haha, it’s usually worse than that. Especially if you do manual labor and don’t have a union. Friend of mine was receiving 6% of the value of his labor after we calculated it.

Fuck we are at 3 now???

I haven’t updated since beta and honestly that explains a lot

:3

Thanks, that means a lot

I voted dumbass, it didn’t fucking matter and it never will because voting can’t stop fascism. Liberal democracy does not have an internal route for stopping fascists. It has failed to do so in every historical moment where it had the chance.

My argument is not that the democrats are worse than republicans by nature. I think they are ontologically evil, yes, but I do agree republicans are worse. My complaint is that they are an insufficient tool for preventinf fascism and should be abandoned as the primary route.

Communism

I agree, the goal would be the authority of workers to be popular first.

Absolutely, convincing liberals of this necessity is imperative

I mostly agree. I see nothing wrong with voting, though I understand the folks who didn’t vote in the last presidential election. I don’t think voting matters all that much outside of local elections but do what you will. It’s getting a lot of hate rn because it has felt very ineffective at preventing fascism and people are seeking alternatives.

Pacifism is not a virtue in and of itself. These people are going to murder me and the people who are supposed to prevent that have done nothing of value. I’m sorry your precious liberal values stop you from defending yourself. If liberal democracy can do nothing to prevent fascism then liberal democracy should be replaced.

for added detail

I understand not wanting to do violence, trust me I do. I hope I never have to hurt anyone in my life, so far I haven’t done so physically or on purpose. It does need to be done though. We are having violence done to us and it is okay to respond violently.

My problem is not with the individual my issue is with the deomcratic party. You are correct that there wasn’t anything Biden could actually do on his own. It would take a collective effort and likely military cooperation. It would cause political mayhem and be detrimental to the country as a whole and possibly destroyed the democratic party. It could prevent fascism though. I’m not saying any of this is easy or legal but it could have prevented fascism. Instead they did nothing of consequence.

I am personally of the opinion that fascism is incapable of being prevented through official means under capitalist liberal democracy so everything I say here is effectively meaningless. I’m sort of arguing that people in a system incapable of stopping fascism should have just done it anyway. Point is, you either have to accept that the democrats did nothing to stop fascism or that capitalist liberal democracy is incapable of stopping it and should be abandoned. Assuming you agree that the Trump administration is fascist.

You would probably refer to me as an authoritarian yeah but I think the term is meaningless. As far as I’m concerned all states are authoritarian and my endgoal is the dissolution of all states.

Edit: Roe v Wade should have been codified far before they had the chance to dismantle it but the democrats used it like a carrot on a stick.

Fascist should not be treated the same as a normal political opponent. You NEED to purge them from your government as soon as possible. You can spot proto-fascists, it is possible. Why in gods green earth would you wait until they have established power to challenge them, that’s stupid as hell. I’m sorry if it disturbs your liberal sensibilities but fascists deserve to be oppressed. They won’t hesitate to oppress you when they get power

They did in 2020, and then they did nothing to prevent fascism. The fascist did not face serious detrimental consequences of any kind. In fact they actively coveted and aided Israeli fascist which harmed their ability to get reelected.

It is George Alexpoulos and iirc they are a fascist.