Video seems to show an agent pulling the gun from the back of his waist. It could have been tucked in his belt but most people with a concealed carry license use an actual holster. An IWB (inside waist band) holster is my educated guess. Some holsters have space for an extra magazine or he could have had one tucked away in any pocket.
Citizens are also constitutionally entitled to refuse entry to government agents who don’t have a warrant signed by a judge. ICE is blatantly ignoring that fact with the full blessing of the federal government. Laws are not being followed. Making a legal argument in the face of that kind of situation is pointless. You do what is in your power to do and let history judge the result. Call in the guard and force them to spring the “trap” we all know is coming. At least then it will be absolutely clear to everyone what is happening.
“There will be justice for Minnesotans,” Walz added.
These are just empty, pacifying words unless you fucking do something Tim. Why should the people not take it upon themselves to defend their neighbors if you won’t do anything to help them? As far as I know you still haven’t done anything significant about Renee Good. Tell us how, exactly, is this going to be different?
Maybe, assuming you make it out of the encounter alive which seems pretty unlikely. In the pictures and videos of these raids there’s usually at least 6 agents involved. If you drop one or two I don’t think the other four would let you leave or peacefully surrender. If you got all six you might be able to leave or wait for the local PD and turn yourself in to them but all of that sounds pretty unbelievable to me.
FYI - you don’t need permission from anyone or confirmation that others will join you to call in sick tomorrow. This is literally one of the easiest things you could do to show your support. It’s not enough on its own but if we can’t even do this much we won’t do more either.
Good thing Trump put that to bed then huh
Instead of talking shit on them why don’t you buy a gun and make the argument yourself? I’ll even promise to try and track down your jurors and explain jury nullification to them.
I’m in from MT
Are people in other states planning on participating in this? I’m definitely in
It’s a solid idea in theory but unless I’m mistaken this means that someone somewhere is in possession of a list of people who have reason to suspect that ICE would want to arrest them. Given the lack of legal processes involved in all this it seems likely that this list will end up being a valuable resource for ICE when they break down that person’s door and steal it.
There are other more direct ways to hurt billionaires
If you sign up to be the mouthpiece you should expect to be one of the first people to get punched in the mouth.
If you shoot a federal (or any other kind of) law enforcement agent and they can prove it was you then you’re going to prison for the rest of your life. Everyone knows, or should know, that. The idea is that these officers will be less likely to take violent action against protesters if they have reason to believe they will be personally shot while doing so. A court battle being likely to go your way doesn’t help much if you take a bullet to the face.
The 2A protects your right to own a firearm, and depending on where you live and how you do it, carry it around with you. Self defense is pretty much the only argument you can make in court to justify actually using a firearm to shoot another person, and cops are essentially immune from any responsibility for their actions which means self defense claims are not accepted if you shoot them. There have been cases where cops showed up at the wrong house in the middle of the night, knocked down the door, entered the home unannounced with guns drawn, and the homeowner was still found guilty of murder for shooting one of them. The state has a vested interest in not setting the precedent that it’s OK to shoot cops under even very narrow circumstances which means these guys are totally fucked if they actually do anything with those guns besides stand around and hope they deter the cops from getting too violent.
That’s not to say what this guy is doing isn’t worth doing, but anyone considering doing this should be aware of what they’re up against. I would be very wary of being the only person in a given area doing this as well. The strategy doesn’t seem like it would have the intended effect if all they have to do is shoot one person and claim they felt threatened because he had a gun.
Why is everyone slow playing everything with this clown show? They were legally required to release all the files two weeks ago. Where are the consequences for refusing to comply with a court order? Why bother issuing orders at all if compliance is optional?
After all you’ve witnessed, you still think a good book is all it takes to reach these people? That’s wild.
Do you have kids? “Because I said so” doesn’t usually come out of nowhere. It’s a response of frustration, usually because that conversation has been had multiple times already.
Sounds like a pretty solid representation of Florida to me. What’s the problem?
You guys need to learn how to accept help from imperfect allies. This purity test bullshit is literally going to get people killed. If this guy wants to help reign in ICE then what the fuck are you discouraging him for?
It sounds to me like a simple region block would do the trick nicely. It’s not like this website is intended for a Russian audience so block them all and be done with it.
These fascist fucks deserve to hang