I’m not saying anyone should get a vasectomy assuming it will be reversed, nor that doctors should counsel it that way. It should absolutely be approached as permanent.

My point was narrow in that for people who are done having kids or strongly don’t want them, vasectomy is a responsible alternative to refusing condoms. There are -also- options like sperm banking or sometimes reversal, if you want to take that gamble. Acknowledging those options isn’t the same as recommending reliance on them.

We agree on the issue though: it shouldn’t be treated casually or as temporary. Beyond that, I don’t think there’s much left to argue.

I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree here. You obviously have very strong opinions about this.

Yes, a vasectomy is meant to be permanent, yet you -can- reverse it. I wouldn’t personally consider it a temporary solution, but some people might.

You can have it reversed within ~6 years and regain a high percentage of fertility. You also have the option of storing semen for later in a sperm bank.

You have options. Sperm quality also degrades over the lifetime of the man, so saving some from your earlier years may have less chance of genetic defects.

You don’t want a kid? Man up and get a vasectomy.

Took ~2 days of discomfort afterward and now I’m shooting vegan cream pies all day long.

I have had disagreements with people on Lemmy and not been downvoted. People here are more focused on debate and whether you are arguing in good faith.

Reddit was going downhill. Conversations are near impossible. You have to agree with the hive mind or you get down voted into oblivion. The monetization of the platform. The gamification of the platform. The AI bot problem.

There are too many to count. Lemmy is still small, and while it has its own problems, is not completely fucked yet.

But I do friend. Then I know they should not have their hand shook