In common communication the shared fantasy is treated as equivalent to experience.

Not in science though. Science (and science-like things) is an exception there. Science has the providence-thing (you could say that it explicitly acknowledges that language isn’t enough). I’d say that’s the source of its power.

I refer to the “The ability to refer directly to a shared experience…” thing.

In our language there’s a missing providence-thing. Like, when somebody mentions “red” there’s no thing telling us if they mean “red gleaned from a book” or “red gleaned from seeing”. They’re treated the same.

In fact, language stuff is generally treated as equivalent to experience stuff.

Madness, right?

That we all glean the same meaning from the “usage patterns” is close enough. And that says nothing about referring to real experiences.

I suspect that rigorous language : science, engineering etc, is more valid and validatable. But the casual stuff not so much. And set foot into esoteric subjects and the howling really begins…

Ignoring my question reflects more on the answerer than the process, I’d say.

Well it implies that we all carry identical interpreters. That’s where 99% of the conversation comes from. Also, that shared 99% is implicitly chorussed by everybody in the conversation.

The ability to refer directly to a shared experience definitely sets that form of communication above other types. Definitely moves it in the direction opposite solipsistic howling. Wouldn’t you agree?

The similarity and the communication-success are directly proportional. I mean, it follows. So you get a kind of 90% social solipsism. Is that the same as an echo chamber? A 90% echo chamber?

If it’s good enough, and it’s all howling solipsists, then that suggests that people are very similar. Because that’s how talking to yourself and talking to other people overlaps.

Less drugs

A person of low character.

You people draw the longest conclusions from the scantest evidence.

That it fucking does. My anxiety level goes up and down with my checking account balance.

My white German Shepherd tries to herd us all into bed at night. She snaps she growls she barks. She has very strong opinions about what the pack should be doing when the sun goes down. She’s very sweet but she’s also very pushy.

I suspect that such a thing never was.

Which of my words drew the most blood? Just curious.

“The best”? Are the limitations of modelling so inescapable? Of thought and word? Of culture?

Here’s another : Sit quietly and observe this thing that’s going on. This river of sensations, with all the sights, sounds, thoughts, etc. Watch closely and you will catch yourself tampering with it. In fact you might see yourself tampering with it a lot, out of habit. If you can halt that tampering then you will see something more. That’s another way.

He places too much stock in fantasy. A story about justice is not justice. Mercy, duty ditto. And I doubt that faking it would bring a man closer to making it either. In fact I think that it might occlude and distract.

Hear a meow, see a cat-shape, feel the fur. Associate that aggregation of phenomena with a model in your mind labelled “cat”.

These 4 things have no necessary connection. But I do connect them.That’s how I make reality.

experts are the best.