Agreed. Fuck cars and accept that other people aren’t going to be perfect and that that’s okay for them to be.

Separate but equal, eh? Gonna introspect on that, or nah?

Someone in this thread went the extra mile and even called them “the shitty” stores. Which is nice. Brings the warm and cozies, that /s

People walking towards each other on the sidewalk usually subconsciously move out of each other’s ways. But there’s a hierarchy to these interactions that you’re probably only aware of if you’re at the bottom of it. White people tend to resist deferring to people of color. White women will rarely defer to anyone, expecting everyone to get it of their way. People of color will defer to white people, etc, etc.

If you break this subconscious hierarchy, people notice and assume you’re being rude or weird. Like if you move enough out of a white women’s way so that she, too, can move a little out of your way so that you both avoid each other (like equals would do), she might just walk into you. Or cuss you out for being rude. Or when I, a white man, defer to a person of color, it trips them up for a second.

Since this hypothetical grocery store is nothing but “don’t break unspoken rules about rudeness or you get kicked out” it means that a black person would need to act meek and submissive in order to avoid scrutiny and thus be able to stay. Meaning the rules would be more stringent against people of color, thus less people of color would be accepted, thus justifying their usual exclusion.

Ableism is super easy. Since this hypothetical prioritizes convenience over people, if you’re slow at something or need more accommodation, you’d get kicked out.

Lol, you think Karens would be kept out of Karen heaven. Lmao, even.

Yes. I made the choice to be like that rather be perceived as polite. Apologies that that wasn’t clear. I’d rather spend my time thinking through things rather than making my words nice for others. I’m neurodivergent, I’ve spent a lifetime trying to mold myself into the box of etiquette and it drove me mad and made me quiet. I’m choosing now to say what needs to be said in how I need to say it.

Like saying that something would be used to further racism and ableism and then checking the people who don’t like to be confronted with that idea.

If this idea was implemented and had any amount of popularity it would spread everywhere like wild fire cause it’d be one more thing to crush the poor with cater to white people who can’t be fucked to talk to people don’t want to be inconvenienced. People usually don’t have much choice in what stores they have access to (see food deserts)

Yeah, I tend to be perceived that way. I’d rather be seen as aggressive than be a polite asshole

Yes, because that would be their job and they wouldn’t be excluded from society if they fail to live up to that. They’d just take public transit like anyone else.

I’m saying “systems need to be oriented towards people and how they act, rather than punishing people for being unable to act in a way that they’re not wired for”. This hypothetical grocery store punishes people for being minorly thoughtless to spare other people the indignity of having to say something or silently suffer with the minor inconvenience.

It takes a human interaction with low stakes and turns it into a systemic interaction where harm to people becomes an abstract thing, so harm tends to become more prolific.

Yeah, the solution is to orient society in such a way where the operation of a deadly, several ton method of conveyance isn’t a requirement to participate in the world. Public transit, biking, and people-oriented spaces. Fuck cars

Bruh, I got autism. This person decided to create a hypothetical grocery store instead of just saying “what’s the deal with people in grocery stores? Why are they always in my way?”

You make a hypothetical system as a funny observation, I’m going to shit on the hypothetical before anyone thinks its an actually good idea. Cause people do that shit. Like a whole lot. Check the person who’s trying to defend it as a good idea for an example

Demi Adejuyigbe made a parody of racism in his stand-up special “Demi Adejuyigbe is going to do one (1) back-flip” where he said all Latina women were 6’2" and people started parroting that shit back to him with no introspection on what the fuck they were saying.

Wow, false dichotomy much? I get it, you liked the idea and think me attacking it is like me attacking you. Once you grow up, you’ll realize that not everything is about you.

Sorry, I meant if you grow up.

Not what I’m fucking saying, but good try. Something being used to justify racism isn’t saying “this is on its face racism” its saying “racists will use the stringent, strict rules of this place to deny people of color access to this space”. All of these complaints are things that everyone does to some extent, you just get frustrated by them when you’re probably already frustrated.

People of color take up more space in white people’s heads, so they get more policing of their behavior even if it isn’t justified. A group of white boys being loud in a grocery store get head shakes and “boys will be boys” comments. A group of black boys being loud in a grocery store get followed around by security and white women clutching their purses.

Also fun how you sidestepped the ableism I brought up in that same sentence. Cause you know there’s no fucking argument there, huh?

I know the point of this thread is “ugh, people, man” and it’s not really meant to be engaged with deeper than that, but this is a really bad idea. It would be used to justify racism and ableism and would be a really unpleasant place to be in, too. Karen city, with no one to speak out about it.

Imagine that spike of anxiety at the check-out where you feel rushed because you’re at the front of the line, but instead of it being mostly in your head it’s now a real thing with real consequences. That’s my nightmare

English speakers call Deutschland Germany, don’t give us all the credit here. And it’s called that cause the UK hated keeping track of what y’all were calling yourselves, so they chose bigotry instead (a common theme for England). The rest of us usually don’t know the history and just have a word with no context as to why it is that way.

For those Americans who don’t understand, calling it Germany is like calling First Nation land “Indialand” because “how can anyone keep track of what they call it? It’s always changing!”

$10?

I’m not here to debate you. I’m here to let you know that no one fucking wants you and this shit you dumped here on lemmy. You wanna get your knob slobbed cause you can parrot some pseudointellectual garbage you picked up from a grifter that told you your intuition on a subject that neither of you know anything about was correct and perfect? Well LLMs and reddit exist, so just go there and get the fuck out of here.

You wanna be a grown-up and actually learn about shit instead of giving yourself a participation trophy in smarts that no one respects? Learn shit so you’re beyond a “third-grader in white suburbia” level of understanding on how the world works before you try to engage others in an intellectual way. I’ll give you a hint, start with the people your grifters bash but watch their videos without the grifter telling you what to think first. You might actually learn something. It might seem like a scary thing at first, being challenged on how you think the world works, but in time you’ll grow to like actually knowing things instead of the mastubatory shit you’ve been doing up till now.

Who knows? You might even end up being something more than a mouth-breathing racist with all of the intellectual prowess of a clam. I mean, it’s unlikely, but human potential can surprise you.

Get the fuck out of here with this shit. No one wants the filth you spew.

You and most everyone around you has unconscious bias against non-white people because of the world you grew up in. So we tip the scale, not against those of higher merit, but against those whose only higher merit is their skin color. Then, once you start seeing a world where everyone contributes and all talents are seen, then we can talk about whether or not the scale tipped too far.

If you’re feeling insecure about your place in the world, join a union or a collective help network. Helping others gives others incentives to help you. It’s like networking, but not purely selfish, so it’s more fun!

Gotta give the administration infinite leeway. That way they don’t crack down on us and we stay profitable - the article writer

Democrats: Man, that’s a whole lot of words my corporate donors aren’t paying me to read. Guess I better move more right to capture those moderate Republicans.