this is what fascism does. it erases history it dislikes. for a group priding themselves on valuing “the truth” they accept fucking none of it. their worldview is violent and sustaining poverty and techno-oligarchial control, but you say that and you’re some commie or whatever and now nothing you believe can be accurate. very good objective analysis with zero emotion on display.

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i have been assured that the military will not fire upon civilians. let’s see.

yeah that’s not how it works lmfao even if this passes and gets signed the world doesn’t just suddenly agree to its decree. it will not make Greenland our 51st state in any real capacity other than paperwork and no enforceable action at all. …so… ok lol. also, definitely gives us more Dem reps. that’ll work out in their favor for sure. Greenland would not run Red.

nothing. my father is a fascist and refuses to acknowledge how homophobic and violent about it he was towards me as a teenager. he can apologize for the way he treated me but supporting Trump twice is unforgivable.

give them everything they want.

i don’t know when they’re irreversibly dead lol. that’s the point. we don’t know how to guarantee death has occurred. this doesn’t mean it isn’t a moment in the process, it means we can’t detect when it happens. irreversible biological death has never been reversed, period.

it is observed as irreversible. i don’t feel the need to hold off speaking in absolutes here.

we don’t know. i am not stating otherwise. something makes clinical death possible and it mimics death in a detectable sense. but the process of death reaches an irreversible point where total functionality ceases.

i completely understand. you make good points. a lot of people do confuse clinical and biological death and equate them or rather don’t bother to separate. death isn’t necessarily a precise moment but i would argue there has to be an exact point it becomes permanent. whatever that is and however it happens is the process referred to as death, and it is irreversible as we know it.

i apologize but i’m not following. a biological organism will eventually cease to exist regardless of our medical and legal terms or our abstract and subjective beliefs. we did transition from not being alive to being alive, but never being alive to not being alive. you can come into existence in a different way you go out and the processes can be different as well. non-existence isn’t death. death is the process of transitioning from existence to non-existence.

it isn’t irreversible by definition. i am stating it is irreversible. death is the cessation of all biological function and this has never been reversed in human history.

it’s possible to be in a state that is indistinguishable from “true death”

yes, and that would be… a state, not death. indistinguishable is describing our ability to detect a difference, not the mechanics being absolutely identical. they are still separate processes.

i’ll give you that on “afterlife.” i have a point to make but it might just be something that annoys me personally and not worth getting into lol.

death is the cessation of all biological function. this process leads to a permanent and irreversible nonexistence.

i could no longer stomach reddit and am uncomfortable using mainstream internet.

this is contributing to the false narrative that ICE is legitimate. they aren’t. they should have never been established and must be abolished. not only that but their current iteration is acting on illegal orders by a fascist dictator president. even if what they’re saying is true it doesn’t justify their actions because they shouldn’t fucking be there in the first place.

oh good, some relief. thank you for any information.

tbh that is underselling how terrible the American healthcare system is lol. die from waiting? more like die from being denied medically necessary procedures by a Prior Authorization team who has never met the patient they make these decisions for and has the authority to reject the demands and recommendations of physicians treating the patient. more like die from avoiding going to the ER because you don’t want to deal with even more debt, so you stay at home and “sleep it off.”

biological death exists regardless of our medical and legal terms.

biological death is irreversible. clinical death is not. calling both “death” is a misnomer and confusing. i dislike it. clinical death is a term used for when it really really really really really seems like somebody is dead. clearly, they weren’t really dead if they came back to life. biological death is not reversible at this point in time or even as far as we know.

probably not, no

lol probably? how about absolutely. because that implies we could get there while alive. not really an afterlife is it?

okay well i suggest you reread that article because it talks about limitations being able to detect death lol. it even mentions early that modern tech has reduced errors but not completely eliminated them.