Sure the Republicans are worse than the dems. I never said otherwise.

I just said the dems still enable genocide and are thus facists/nazis. Then i said pretending otherwise ( like glossing over or minimizing the fact that the dems are nazis / fascists too) comes off as privileged and selfish.

What part of that confused you?

Shhh the dem voters will be mad if you point that out.

Complacement with facism vs actively pushing it is fair but both are still fascist.

I mean what do you call the democrats for enabling the genocide in Gaza?

I think it was more like a choice of just being nazis abroad or being both a nazi abroad and back home.

Pretending otherwise just comes off as selfish and privileged tbh.

Good link dude thanks gave me a fuller picture for sure.

Thanks I’ll check it out. Should have some time tonight or tomorrow night.

I sincerely don’t know if it’s a lot of people or none. Seems like both sides are lying and I can’t find anything concrete enough to be sure either way.

No I wasn’t I’m 30 (born in 1995). My awareness of this event for most of my life was just the picture of the guy in front of the tank. Once I saw the video of what happens next I spent a day searching for videos of violence or anything more concrete but whether it’s through censorship, my incompetence, or it not existing : I couldn’t find it🤷

That’s why I’m asking you. I want to know if I missed something because I want to be on the right side of this. I was raised an evangelical far right Republican whose family votes for trump and now I’m an atheist and a socialist. All that to say I do try to change my mind when it makes sense.

How’s my vibe dude?

I do see doubt put on the genocide label for what’s happening to the Uyghur Muslims. I also don’t think that label fits.

Maybe I’m just ignorant, it’s one of those issues you don’t hear much about. I saw this the other day and thought it was interesting

https://youtu.be/wYlzjuAoaSI

Not trying to argue with you so much as hope you got some links I can check to make sure I ain’t missing big pieces.

I know a lot of arrests were made in like 2018ish and they had camps for them but I thought they transfer people to standard jails or let them out by now tbh.

Care to tell me how you know the streets were covered in bodies? I’ve never seen that. I’m being genuine

I’ve only ever seen the picture of this dude in front of the tank and then years later the video of him not getting run over. I felt tricked when I saw it.

I’m very aware there is censorship and propaganda at play but I know the US is playing that game in addition to China so I really don’t know what level of government force was used there.

The tank picture and the way it’s framed over here have me leaning towards the idea that there is no real evidence of a massacre. Maybe that’s China censorship or maybe it didn’t happen but if you got something I can look at and know more i’d appreciate you sharing it. 🙂

That being said without something like that the comparison feels unfair since we don’t know if tank man received any repercussions for not complying. 🤷 We’re as ice is just murdering civilians in the street in the USA.

Edit: to be clear I’ve searched around a lot but it’s so unclear to me. But maybe I missed something super important

Ah the willfully ignorant type

The man didn’t get run over. He climbed on top of the tank… https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyb29jbTR6NmlwNzlvM2locDJtODlxODVuYjNqMG9uaWF4MzNhM3h6biZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/l3MjWQaSfumoo/giphy.gif

Hex bear is the best part of lemmy in my experience tbh idk while y’all hate them so much.

Good on you for being fair.

Curious what you disagree with?

Source?