it is not true.

It is

It is not. I’m sorry you have a different version of reality.

Both of you admitted animals are lesser when you negated artificial insemination with rape. There’s no going back now.

You’re telling me to be civil while theunknownmuncher’s beliefs are allowed room to breathe.

You take a side when you do this because these types of belief should be silenced. Genocidal, violent, psychopathic beliefs should not be given platforms to fester online.

Telling me to be civil is muting the response needed to counter these horrific ideas. This type of apologia and these kinds of ideas contribute to furthering domestication and slavery of animals.

You are being the equivalent of a US Liberal telling Leftwingers to follows rules and procedures to counter Right-wing fascism. Ideas of oppression, no matter the group of people or species of life, need to be shunned.

Then why won’t you say that artificial insemination IS rape?

Because that’s my whole argument. It has been my whole argument, and will continue to be my whole argument, regardless of how much you try to derail the conversation.

Artificial insemination is not a veterinary procedure though. It’s a forced action on a animal that violates their consent.

How the fuck do y’all not recognize this.

I’m questioning your support for psychopathic opinions. Because it is psychopathic to think of animals as lesser beings compared to humans that deserve less dignity, respect, and moral consideration.

That is what both you and theunknownmuncher are defending. Disgusting.

Theunknownmuncher said that I trivialize the experience of human rape victims. I never said anything that would trivialize their experiences. I advocated for broadening the scope of what we call rape to more than just humans. It’s anthropocentric to think that only humans can be raped.

Does this sub encourage bad faith discussions? That seems to be against the principle of civility.

Meet psychopathy with civility? Interesting response.

You made a personal attack when you put words in my mouth and forced me to take a position I never held.

I’m defending myself accordingly.

Interesting to hear this perspective when theunknownmuncher has been doing the same throughout my thread with them and this entire post.

You keep trying to catch me in a trap as if I fell into one. You’re hallucinating.

Real suffering

Shows your speciesist bias. How fortunate that you ignore to acknowledge that bias in order to buff up your argument and make it appear stronger than it is.

Artificial insemination is rape, and cows suffer as a result, just as women do, dogs do, and any other species.

And for the record, you don’t care about women getting raped. You literally don’t give a fuck because if you did, you’d understand the parallels between what humans can experience and what non-human animals can experience. Rape to any animal is a violation that can fuck them up, psychologically!

But your sick, egotistical, selfish world view blocks you from giving a shit. I suspect this world view also extends to other beliefs of yours.

Go crawl back into the hole where you feel morally righteous. Meanwhile, is vegans will continue to fight for animal rights which includes anti-artificial insemination and freedom.

It’s so sad that you have to project your own lack of self-awareness just to make your argument. Clearly grasping at straws here.

In the meantime, us vegans will keep convincing people successfully that any animal can be raped, and especially cows who are artificially inseminated.

Yes dumbass. I said that IN THE CONTEXT of referring to how humans, cows, and dogs aren’t ALL the same. However, humans, cows, and dogs are ALL sentient beings with the capability to communicate and experience pain. In that way, consent is real for them, and artificial insemination via non-consent is rape for ALL of them.

You’re trying to trap me in a cognitive fallacy, when the really fallacy is your inability to understand nuance and context. Truly not shaking the dumbass reputation.

Artificial insemination is equivalent to rape though. That’s been my whole argument this entire time.

And instead of finding good reasons to refute that, you’re doubling down on straw mans and trying to derail the conversation. You’re sweating that I won’t give up to your bigoted views.

Cope. You’ve ran out of arguments, but you’re trying to cover your ass to make it look like you’re the one that came out on top.

Keep up the debate if you’re not uncomfortable with people pointing out the flaws in your world view for all to see.

Show me where I perfectly equated humans to cows, cows to dogs, or dogs to humans.

It’s okay to feel uncomfortable and conflicted right now if you can’t find it. Perhaps dwell on the fact that you actually do understand that they are the same IN THE WAYS I DESCRIBED while simultaneously clinging to a world view that requires them to be different.

You wouldn’t change your mind that we should do everything we can to prevent such an event from happening?

You’d just accept your fate?

The fact you can’t see how contradictory this is is quite humorous.

What if someone were to use that power and kill you?