The classic is with ham which I loved as a kid but I think now it’s sort of essential to have some pepperoni or salami or something in addition to or instead of ham if having pineapple. It needs that intensity to contrast the pineapple, the grease too, it’s a part of it, mixes with juice from the pineapple and just produces the most “pizza” of tastes, it’s like pure monosogoodium pizzamate. Chicken, I mean it’s probably fine but in general chicken on pizza is pretty dry and bland and it’s doing nothing to compliment the pineapple particularly.

But see, doesn’t that just mean it’s a really good operating system? Not necessarily “fun”? I don’t know if I’m getting my point across here. Think of a pair of shoes, there is much variation of form and design intent and pricing and capability but nevertheless they’re pretty much all there to facilitate the task of walking. You could get a really bad pair of shoes that constantly dig holes in to your foot and fall to pieces and make walking a huge chore. Maybe some day someone will make a pair that somehow force you stop and look at billboards and ad displays, those would be your windows shoes. You could also get a great pair, that feels so comfortable you could forget you’re even wearing them, they look great and they were a fantastic price and they never worsen your ability to perform the task of walking. They might even be such good shoes that they’re suitable for all sorts of walking adjacent tasks like running as well, perhaps you’ll enjoy running, again though what’s fun there? Running? Or having shoes that don’t make running difficult? I’d assume the former. That’s what I tend to wonder about with the folks who talk about how much fun Linux is. I’m sure the various distros are really great operating systems that work way better than a lot of other options and don’t have the same perverse incentives that keep those other options so consistently poor and for all those reasons it’s a great choice but who’s looking at operating systems thinking “this is going to be fun”? I’d love to have that same capacity to be so amused by it but it’s hard to see it as anything other than a functional piece of equipment. I certainly will have preferences and appreciation for good equipment but I wouldn’t think of it as fun. I have a similar reaction to people that say they like it because they want to tinker or “you can do anything you want with it”, I don’t want to yuk anyone’s yum but, what would you even be trying to do with it?

I’m always somewhat confused by this, I haven’t tried Linux since 2009 so maybe I just need to try it some more to appreciate what people mean by thks. I’d say it was “fun” in so much as it was nice to have a challenge for a little while but that was more sort of incidental to it facilitating my computer being a useful machine for me. In terms of it being a better operating system that does it’s job efficiently without problems, shouldn’t it be sort of… Invisible then? Like how can it be fun? I use my computer to do stuff so for me it’s sort of like an operating system is only noticeable to the extent that it is bad and if it isn’t bad I won’t really be aware of it.

Sounds like it’s still quite a worry, maybe she’s safe from malicious software but sounds very prone to being mislead in to doing things by bad actors through her computer.

I mean why was there a big surge around that time? Not referring to the later drop.

I wonder what happened around 2018ish

I think it carries some rhetorical weight. ICE is a political paramilitary organisation and as it serves no legitimate civic or legal function outside of that purpose it’s entirely wrapped up IN the politics behind it and attempts to invoke some legitimacy through that. It is because of that political support from some of the populace that such a force can exist and do what it does without uniform discontent and disapproval from the population suffering under their activities.Those particular segments subscribing to those particular politics have, as part of the wider constellation of beliefs, admiration for and an idealistic appreciation of the traditional military and those who are or have been a part of it (as long as they’re quiet and don’t say anything inconvenient).

When even former or serving military veterans get victimised it does make it look at least a little bit worse to a wider range of people than it otherwise might. ICE supporters will certainly have ideological defences and rationalisations for this, they’ll surely rapidly disown military personnel who don’t toe the line and attempt to discredit them, but is at least a little bit inconvenient having to do this compared to just cheering on the oppression as part of a righteous attack on undesirable elements as any other victims will be considered.