Thank you for your response 🙏 it was enlightening my next quandary into zen meditation will take longer than 3 minutes 😅 sometimes in my observation of how things are I lack the perspective to grasp the poetry presented but it’s always a pleasant feeling having your eyes opened to it!

I’m back and have decided it’s apples to oranges

I appreciate the point that having the mental acuity to observe one’s self in a moment as they are without judgement is akin to observing “reality”

Where the comparison falls down for me lies in how I define reality and science though

Reality - shared truth

Science - peer reviewed facts

Individuals observations during meditation cannot be verified full stop an argument could be made that without abstraction and outside observation the could be studied and quantified.

Thank you for your thoughts I mean no offence and look forward to any perspective that compels you to believe otherwise:)

This hurt my brain 😅 will investigate zen meditation and follow up lol

Reading the red rising series and trying to visualize the 8.5km long morning star 😅