I can’t even feel superior to everyone when theirs so many arch installers!! I use real arch btw. I thought “I guess I should go to Gentoo” but then wait, CHROMEOS IS A GENTOO INSTALLER!

I feel like we only have two options now

  1. Ascend to BSD-land
  2. Ironically supporting Windows Unironically

edit: I have decided to replace my debian laptop with BSD

  • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
    18·
    3 days ago

    Yessss…

    Come to Gentooooo.

    Come.

    Muahahahhahaha. *Lightning & Thunder!*

    • msage@programming.dev
      7·
      3 days ago

      Gentoo is easy and almost user-friendly.

      Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.

      Plan9 sounds like a more exclusive deal.

      • thejml@sh.itjust.works
        7·
        3 days ago

        As someone who installed Gentoo from nothing but a Stage 1 iso and kernel tarball back in 2003, this is crazy to read. I was able to squeeze so much performance out of a 300mhz embedded board back then though compared to most distros… after the 6hr kernel build.

        • msage@programming.dev
          4·
          3 days ago

          Stage 1 and 2 are no longer available (I mean technically you could, but it’s not suggested). Stage 3 was super easy, even with kernel from source.

          It takes time, sure, but it can compile on background. I got 16 threads on my CPU, so leaving 12 for emerge, I can still use the PC.

          I get that people joke about ‘days of compiling’, and maybe it’s real for a huge mass of packages, but even if, it doesn’t stop me from working.

          • thejml@sh.itjust.works
            4·
            2 days ago

            Remember, the days of compiling was back when we were running this on 300-500Mhz single core CPUs with 5400RPM spinning rust and RAM amounts in the hundreds of MB.

            The embedded system I was putting this on was a 300Mhz single core low power AMD processor with 256MB and a laptop 4200RPM 4GB drive. And yeah, it probably took over a day to compile everything… but it ran much faster than a stock kernel as I could customize the system to only have what it needed and leverage the on-chip ssl and video acceleration support. I used it for a NAS and home server for years.

            • msage@programming.dev
              1·
              2 days ago

              I know, but that’s so long ago, yet the jokes are here anyway.

              Which is shame, as it seems to be scaring away potential users.

      • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
        31·
        3 days ago

        Gentoo is easy and almost user-friendly.

        Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.

        Less prone to randomly biting your head off anyway.

        More tame.

        Takes more petting though, to get it to settle.

        • msage@programming.dev
          1·
          3 days ago

          Really?

          I never tried Arch, so I can’t compare.

          Apart from initramfs from install, which took more time, it felt like everything else just worked. Including installing Steam.

          • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            Really?

            Yes. Gentoo really is like that compared to arch.

            I never tried Arch, so I can’t compare.

            Oh.

            Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.

            That^ made it seem to me like you had.

            • msage@programming.dev
              2·
              2 days ago

              I just read a lot of Wiki.

              But when I discovered how cool it is to compile stuff, I went straight to Gentoo, assuming it’s mostly the same apart from packaging.

              • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                2·
                2 days ago

                Before I tried gentoo (or rather sabayon, for 3 years before gentoo proper), from all the “you have to compile everything”, I imagined that as a lot of running “make”. I didn’t realise it’s even easier1 than other package managers.

                1 emerge is shorter to type than e.g. apt-get install

                • msage@programming.dev
                  1·
                  1 day ago

                  Yeah, it’s insane how easy to use Gentoo is.

                  Nobody will take it from me. But I admit to only using it on desktop, laptop is using Mint. If I ever find time to play around with a build server, I will try switching there, too.