I used Plex to create a master playlist of all of my Stargate content in original broadcast order. So I guess it mostly resembles the “optimized” version , and all crossover references work.
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How did you do that? Please let it not be super manually…
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Someone made a Python script to automate that for Plex. I do not use Plex, so I cannot vouch for its usefulness at all. But if it works half as well as it is supposed to, that is at least a good starting point and better that doing it entirely manually.
And, of course, one could always manually manipulate the Jellyfin database file. I am sure there would be a (somewhat involved) way to script the creation of a playlist that way.
Cool, especially if this helps Jellyfin users. Not sure why this is necessary for Plex users tho, since Plex can make this playlist with its own tools. Although, as I mentioned… it may not be immediately obvious how to do this.
Also, cool for you to attempt to make a comment that will federate to different servers 👍
Not sure why this is necessary for Plex users tho, since Plex can make this playlist with its own tools.
It may not be necessary, but I assume it is less work. Even if the tools to create a playlist exist in the default UI, running that script is hypothetically basically just a one-click “make a Stargate playlist” button, which sounds like it would be less effort than using the default Plex tools to do so.
Yah, I have a Kodi one just sorted by date. Need to look at it and this before my next watch, dropped it in the folder and left a note. Mine doesn’t have Origins, although to my shame I have archived it, here’s hoping it’s not the last, that would be sad.
I watched Origins again last week, and I agree with the last image above in that it should be placed at the end, if you really feel the need to watch it at all. It’s a prequel, but it is full of nods to the original series/film that you will not catch if you watch everything in a chronological order.
With that said, it was not made by anyone who was involved in any of the previous shows/films, and breaks multiple aspects of the canon of both the shows and films. Just be prepared before watching it that it should probably be considered its own thing that is simply inspired by the previous shows/films. Not as bad as Infinity, though, in terms of breaking canon and just being something else entirely.
Well, it has limited usefulness, but you can work within certain constraints and do it in batches for certain shows. I don’t know if you’re aware of this, but with shows like Doctor Who, it will just play specials. If you let it play from episode to episode… Specials will play in order as they’re supposed to air, without any interference. I guess it’s just a Plex feature. no need to actually create a playlist. Unless you want to include torchwood, Sarah Jane adventures, etc…
Anyway, if you do a search for Star Trek, for example, and then sort the search results by air date, you can, for example, select all of Star Trek the next generation, Deep Space 9, and Voyager, and add that to a playlist after you have added enterprise, then the original series, then the animated series individually by series. You will have to add the movies in manually to that playlist, if you want the films in the playlist as well. I don’t think there were any shows after that whose seasons overlapped. Maybe a season or two of lower decks and strange new worlds, but I don’t thinks so.
This doesn’t work for Star Wars stuff because, although nothing overlaps (except for the Mandalorian and book of Boba Fett), there are several films that take place in between seasons of certain TV shows, and air date order is not the same as chronological order. All that Star Wars stuff is insanely all over the place as far as timeline.
Same with the MCU stuff. Air date and proper chronology are not the same, so it’s all mixed up.
Atlantis begins after season seven and runs in parallel with season eight. A fairly big plot device from the SG1 season eight finale is then used in the Atlantis season one finale.
Sorry, it’s been a while since I had to figure it out, since I just have one big master playlist for all of Stargate in broadcast order, and it sort of interleaves season 8 of SG1 with season, 1 of Atlantis (and all subsequent seasons of both), so, yeah, it runs them parallel with each other, like you said
I actually preferred the earliest seasons. Humans as the scrappy underdogs exploring the galaxy are more fun to watch than the humans who have been around the block for a few years and are building space ships for themselves. Also, half of the early episodes are dedicated to adding some interesting worldbuilding concepts. There are only a handful of episodes in the latter half of the series that added some neat new concept.
I always consider that the early seasons were them throwing a lot of shit at the wall to see what sticks and feels right, and then they actually followed through on that. Like how the quantum mirror episode carried a lot of water for later plot points. They just didn’t take themselves seriously from the get go, and were able to figure out something that works, so the cringe stuff doesn’t even feel that bad in the long run, we just move on, it’s not coming back anyway.
Plus there’s a couple of big episodes that were in surprisingly early seasons, like the “crystal boy tries to heal O’Neill”, that showed what kind of stories they wanted to make, that it was worth keeping up with.
You may have just convinced me to watch sg.
After my rewatch of DS9 of course, I just started it
Holy shit have you never watched SG1? Start with the movie then watch SG1. Atlantis begins after season 8.
If you like Star Trek, you’ll love Stargate.
There are a few different choices for watch order.
https://www.gateworld.net/news/2021/04/stargate-watch-order-three-ways-enjoy-entire-franchise/
https://www.gateworld.net/news/2024/09/optimized-stargate-watch-order/
I don’t agree with watching all the Kino webisodes in a row. It makes more sense to me to intersperse them after key episodes. This forum post explores the topic: https://forum.gateworld.net/stargate-universe/82556-quick-question-on-sgu-kino-viewing-order?t=80265
I used Plex to create a master playlist of all of my Stargate content in original broadcast order. So I guess it mostly resembles the “optimized” version , and all crossover references work.
Replying to @[email protected] here because for some reason, their comment is not federating to my instance.
Someone made a Python script to automate that for Plex. I do not use Plex, so I cannot vouch for its usefulness at all. But if it works half as well as it is supposed to, that is at least a good starting point and better that doing it entirely manually.
https://gist.github.com/Nixellion/03eb0f92cbd7ad173f33ecab225333a9
Because I set up a playlist entirely manually with Jellyfin, and it was very tedious. I wished that I could have done something like
But that button in step 2 does not actually exist, so it was a very manual process for me.
With that said, it looks like there is a Jellyfin API Python wrapper that seems to be similar to the Plex wrapper being used in the script linked above. https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-apiclient-python
And, of course, one could always manually manipulate the Jellyfin database file. I am sure there would be a (somewhat involved) way to script the creation of a playlist that way.
Cool, especially if this helps Jellyfin users. Not sure why this is necessary for Plex users tho, since Plex can make this playlist with its own tools. Although, as I mentioned… it may not be immediately obvious how to do this.
Also, cool for you to attempt to make a comment that will federate to different servers 👍
It may not be necessary, but I assume it is less work. Even if the tools to create a playlist exist in the default UI, running that script is hypothetically basically just a one-click “make a Stargate playlist” button, which sounds like it would be less effort than using the default Plex tools to do so.
After a couple decades as a UX designer, rule number one is: whatever works best for you
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Yah, I have a Kodi one just sorted by date. Need to look at it and this before my next watch, dropped it in the folder and left a note. Mine doesn’t have Origins, although to my shame I have archived it, here’s hoping it’s not the last, that would be sad.
I watched Origins again last week, and I agree with the last image above in that it should be placed at the end, if you really feel the need to watch it at all. It’s a prequel, but it is full of nods to the original series/film that you will not catch if you watch everything in a chronological order.
With that said, it was not made by anyone who was involved in any of the previous shows/films, and breaks multiple aspects of the canon of both the shows and films. Just be prepared before watching it that it should probably be considered its own thing that is simply inspired by the previous shows/films. Not as bad as Infinity, though, in terms of breaking canon and just being something else entirely.
How did you do that? Please let it not be super manually…
Asking for my MCU, DCU, stargate, doctor who universe, etc etc etc. collections.
Well, it has limited usefulness, but you can work within certain constraints and do it in batches for certain shows. I don’t know if you’re aware of this, but with shows like Doctor Who, it will just play specials. If you let it play from episode to episode… Specials will play in order as they’re supposed to air, without any interference. I guess it’s just a Plex feature. no need to actually create a playlist. Unless you want to include torchwood, Sarah Jane adventures, etc…
Anyway, if you do a search for Star Trek, for example, and then sort the search results by air date, you can, for example, select all of Star Trek the next generation, Deep Space 9, and Voyager, and add that to a playlist after you have added enterprise, then the original series, then the animated series individually by series. You will have to add the movies in manually to that playlist, if you want the films in the playlist as well. I don’t think there were any shows after that whose seasons overlapped. Maybe a season or two of lower decks and strange new worlds, but I don’t thinks so.
This doesn’t work for Star Wars stuff because, although nothing overlaps (except for the Mandalorian and book of Boba Fett), there are several films that take place in between seasons of certain TV shows, and air date order is not the same as chronological order. All that Star Wars stuff is insanely all over the place as far as timeline.
Same with the MCU stuff. Air date and proper chronology are not the same, so it’s all mixed up.
Atlantis begins after season seven and runs in parallel with season eight. A fairly big plot device from the SG1 season eight finale is then used in the Atlantis season one finale.
Sorry, it’s been a while since I had to figure it out, since I just have one big master playlist for all of Stargate in broadcast order, and it sort of interleaves season 8 of SG1 with season, 1 of Atlantis (and all subsequent seasons of both), so, yeah, it runs them parallel with each other, like you said
As with most shows, the first couple seasons are the weakest, but the show overall is just fantastic. It’s a must-see for scifi fans.
I actually preferred the earliest seasons. Humans as the scrappy underdogs exploring the galaxy are more fun to watch than the humans who have been around the block for a few years and are building space ships for themselves. Also, half of the early episodes are dedicated to adding some interesting worldbuilding concepts. There are only a handful of episodes in the latter half of the series that added some neat new concept.
Oh I don’t disagree, just that the first two seasons had a significant amount of cringe that smooths out by season 3.
I always consider that the early seasons were them throwing a lot of shit at the wall to see what sticks and feels right, and then they actually followed through on that. Like how the quantum mirror episode carried a lot of water for later plot points. They just didn’t take themselves seriously from the get go, and were able to figure out something that works, so the cringe stuff doesn’t even feel that bad in the long run, we just move on, it’s not coming back anyway.
Plus there’s a couple of big episodes that were in surprisingly early seasons, like the “crystal boy tries to heal O’Neill”, that showed what kind of stories they wanted to make, that it was worth keeping up with.
Jesus! Well, I assume you’ve at least watched Babylon 5. It’s also got a bunch of Trek references. And actors.
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